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  1. #1
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    Unhappy Features or stability???

    Hi all,

    I have a big problem with all the latest firmwares, both from ASUS and all the ones that are derived from that.

    I've tried every version that I found here but nothing stoped my problem.

    The problem is that I get random hard-resets of my router. Especially if I run for example web-radio. But it also happens when I'm just surfing. After the reset the logfile is cleared so I can not find the cause of this.

    I use a very basic setup with 2 wire-less laptops and 2 wired pc's. No ftp, no camera, no printer and no audio or something.
    My connection is a PPPoE from Casema/Wanadoo.

    With the older firmwares I never got this problem. (But different ones )

    It looks like that everyone is trying to put more and more fancy features in this router but forget about stability.
    For some features (like the usb-audio) I really think that no-one ever uses it...... (just my opinion)

    Can some-one help me to find a sollution for this stability problem???

    M

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    Yes, go back to an older, stable firmware, especially if you don't use any of the advanced features.

    I also have a pretty basic config and I still use 1.6.5.3.

    My router has been up and running for more then four months now.
    Brubber

    WL-500g, WL-138g, WL-160g

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    Quote Originally Posted by i-beast-a
    Hi all,

    I have a big problem with all the latest firmwares, both from ASUS and all the ones that are derived from that.

    I've tried every version that I found here but nothing stoped my problem.

    The problem is that I get random hard-resets of my router. Especially if I run for example web-radio. But it also happens when I'm just surfing. After the reset the logfile is cleared so I can not find the cause of this.

    I use a very basic setup with 2 wire-less laptops and 2 wired pc's. No ftp, no camera, no printer and no audio or something.
    My connection is a PPPoE from Casema/Wanadoo.

    With the older firmwares I never got this problem. (But different ones )

    It looks like that everyone is trying to put more and more fancy features in this router but forget about stability.
    For some features (like the usb-audio) I really think that no-one ever uses it...... (just my opinion)

    Can some-one help me to find a sollution for this stability problem???

    M
    That is why we've added "Known bugs in official Asus firmware" topic to te FAQ, trying to ask ASUS to fix them.
    It's very hard to me to solve your problem - it is never happened to me, and I see no reason for it... Previously you've written, that 1.8.1.7 works stable for you. Is this true?

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    yep, I never had these problems with 1.8.1.7

    What has changed that could cause this problem??
    Something with pppoe?

    All versions of the 1.9.X.X series has this problem.

    Can I downgrade to 1.8.1.7. without loosing my settings?

    (Groeten uit Breda)

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    Quote Originally Posted by i-beast-a
    What has changed that could cause this problem??
    Something with pppoe?
    no, pppoe stayed intact in asus firmwares. Relevant changes are: ethernet and wireless drivers. ethernet driver now includes workaround for wan-die.
    Have you tried to stop using WLAN to reduce the number of affected things?
    Also, have you experienced "WAN port dies" with 1.8.1.7?
    Have you tried 1.8.2.4?

    Can I downgrade to 1.8.1.7. without loosing my settings?
    Sure.

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    Oleg

    This random reset also happen to me!! Why this happen on some users?
    The WL-500g are more that one version?
    This reset issue are in all of 1.9.2.7 to 1.9.2.7-3b, but not in all other fw. I use 1.8.1.7-3 and work very well...
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    [ WL-500g - fw: 1.9.2.7-7e [Oleg] | WL-500gP - fw: 1.9.2.7-7f-USB-1.63 [Oleg&koppel.cz] ]

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    Quote Originally Posted by int
    This reset issue are in all of 1.9.2.7 to 1.9.2.7-3b, but not in all other fw. I use 1.8.1.7-3 and work very well...
    I'm aware of your problem, but I would like to know more details. Have you tried 1.8.2.4?

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    How about both?

    I agree with the original statement here that stability seems to be a problem even in the ASUS "stable" firmwares. So I'd vote first to thank the developers of custom firmwares and then to ask them to try to develop two concurrent streams of improvements, one for stability and one for features. Knowing absolutely nothing about the technical side of things, I assume that the addition of new features often creates potential stability problems. Custom stability versions could work on just ironing out problems in official ASUS firmwares. I also agree, though, that this should really be on ASUS.

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    This is random and a total wild shot, but I wonder if this has anything at all to do with poor ASUS default firewall rules?

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    Still no real sollution??

    When is the next version of ASUS expected? I still hope that this will bring a sollution!

    I even stopped looking at chupa.nl because all the latest firmware versions have the reset-bug.

    I really have no alternative than running the old versions.

  11. #11
    OK, I feel rather silly, but I solved my stability problem.

    The problem was that the power lead to my USB hub had got knocked out, so it was unpowered. I am running a printer and a flash USB drive off the hub. I guess the power load was too much for the router's single USB port causing it to reboot. Don't know why it aways occurred when there was another network around.

    Plugging back in the power lead fixed all the stability problems (so far, 48 hours up without a problem, best I have had for 3 weeks).

    Don't know if that helps anyone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by i-beast-a
    Hi all,

    The problem is that I get random hard-resets of my router. Especially if I run for example web-radio. But it also happens when I'm just surfing. After the reset the logfile is cleared so I can not find the cause of this.

    I use a very basic setup with 2 wire-less laptops and 2 wired pc's. No ftp, no camera, no printer and no audio or something.
    My connection is a PPPoE from Casema/Wanadoo.

    With the older firmwares I never got this problem. (But different ones )

    It looks like that everyone is trying to put more and more fancy features in this router but forget about stability.
    For some features (like the usb-audio) I really think that no-one ever uses it...... (just my opinion)

    Can some-one help me to find a sollution for this stability problem???

    M
    This is not true. The customized firmwares that Oleg made are more stable and contain less bugs than the standard ones from Asus.

    Now back to your problem, if the older firmwares don't hard reset, then why do you need the newer ones?

    Try to get back to a stable situation first, and try to figure out which older firmware doesn't cause this problem.

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    @Wiz: I wasn't blaming anyone!!!

    ASUS also introduced a lot of new features.

    The bandwith management is a feature that I want to use. (This is a really good feature for a router!)
    Last edited by i-beast-a; 15-01-2005 at 21:06.

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