SANE (Scanner server) - Any chance for WL-500g?

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27-09-2004, 01:04
Dante_

SANE (Scanner server) - Any chance for WL-500g?

I have the WL-500g and an USB printer+scanner combo...
I'm not using it on the router, cause i can't use the scanner.
I have found that S.A.N.E. ( http://www.sane-project.org/ ) is able to share a scanner on the network.
Is there any chance to compile it for the WL-500g?
It's avaliable as a debian package for MIPS... Can I use debian packages for MIPS on the router? how?

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To OLEG: Please use firmware 1.8.1.9 as a base! The WAN port spoeed setting via WEB interface works! no more need for post-boot complicated stuff (for noobs). Also the is the QoS webpage that could be tried to make it work with wondershaper...
27-09-2004, 02:15
chipanzee

If the libraries used in debian is compatible, you can use that. I doubt they are though. Actually, for the WL500G, you can use a little trick to try all the debian stuff, debootstrap a mipsel woody and transfer it to a USB HD/memory stick(but that would be bad for long term use because of write cycles), then mount it on the WL500G and do a chroot. Another similar way is to setup a nfs server and do the same debootstrap. I would try the NFS route soon.
27-09-2004, 20:41
brubber

[QUOTE=Dante_]I have the WL-500g and an USB printer+scanner combo...
I'm not using it on the router, cause i can't use the scanner..................
QUOTE]

Doesn't the printer manufacturer provide software / drivers for this function? The software supplied with HP combo printers supports this function.

Another option might be to use a simple USB hub, connect one to the ASUS, the other one straight to the computer you intend to use for scanning, or if your printer also has an LPT1 connection you can use this port for the scanning functionality.
28-09-2004, 01:24
Dante_

It's an HP psc750... (USB Only)
The driver has two parts...
The printer driver I can set it to use the IP port, but the scanner driver only shows up on the system with the printer pluged in the computer.
As for the USB HUB stuff it wont work, becaus you cant connect 2 USB hosts in a hub.
28-09-2004, 01:50
chipanzee

An idea which you may want to pursue. I have been able to run a chrooted debian woody with WL500G. I run openwrt on it which I have installed dropbear(ssh) that I can connect into. Then I NFS mount to a prepared debian woody and chroot there.

If you want to try out if SANE in debian works with your device on this, you can try this route. After that, think about compressed the whole debian tree(or whatever is necessary) into a memory stick. But can you printer be plug to a hub as you would need 2 connection for the WL500G, memory and printer.

Another geek idea, get the WL-HDD and use it as a NFS server. 100Mbps is much faster than 11Mbps on the USB 1.1. But that would need a hackable firmware as I the stock one doesn't have NFS server built-in.
28-09-2004, 19:26
brubber

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante_

It's an HP psc750... (USB Only)
The driver has two parts...
The printer driver I can set it to use the IP port, but the scanner driver only shows up on the system with the printer pluged in the computer.

Yes I know. Just check out the manufacturers site, often it requires a specific installation order to get everything working. You will certainly need more then just the drivers.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante_

It's an HP psc750... (USB Only)
As for the USB HUB stuff it wont work, becaus you cant connect 2 USB hosts in a hub.

Yeah, I meant USB splitter.
(something like this one; http://www.sfcable.com/Merchant2/mer...de=usbsplitter
29-09-2004, 12:32
chipanzee

just curious, if I use this kind of splitter can each device attached still get the max bus power of 5v@500mA ?
09-11-2004, 11:32
Pirat

Is there something new for SANE & WL-500 ? ??????
09-11-2004, 20:23
Dante_

No... :(
I don't know how to make the bootloader use the usb HD for booting debian..
Also.. It's gonna be difficult to setup a debian sytem to resemble the ASUS firmware...
10-11-2004, 09:12
Pirat

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante_

...
It's avaliable as a debian package for MIPS...
...

Can you post the Link??
10-11-2004, 10:19
Styno

Binary MIPS packages from Debian will likely not run on WL-500g. You need to recompile the source for use on WL500g.
23-11-2004, 11:43
L.Mo

are there any updates for the sane scanner server?
10-01-2005, 19:49
erik_bies

Wll there appears to be a SANE p;ackae for the openwrt platform. Maybe it will work on WL500g too.

http://openwrt.alphacore.net/Packages

Package: saned
Version: 1.0.15
Depends: libpthread
Section: net
Architecture: mipsel
Maintainer: Florian Fainelli <florian@alphacore.net>
MD5Sum: 625e3f3457fcb03fdc94d86a58eb315c
Size: 136665
Filename: saned_1.0.15_mipsel.ipk
Source: http://www.sane-projects.org
Description: SANE stands for "Scanner Access Now Easy" and is an application programming interface (API) that provides standardized access to any raster image scanner hardware (flatbed scanner, hand-held scanner, video- and still-cameras, frame-grabbers, etc.).
12-05-2005, 13:11
Jean-Fabrice

Got sane-backends compiled for wiley (Asus wl series) using unslung build system.
I'll make it available soon in the unslung asus feed.
It would be nice if testing users could give some feedback about it.

JF
12-05-2005, 14:44
Jean-Fabrice

done.
as usual :
ipkg update
ipkg install sane-backends

You'll need xinetd or inetd (inetutils) to make it run.
12-05-2005, 14:51
Oleg

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jean-Fabrice

done.
as usual :
ipkg update
ipkg install sane-backends

You'll need xinetd or inetd (inetutils) to make it run.

JF, you're master of ipkgs. :)
12-05-2005, 14:59
Jean-Fabrice

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oleg

JF, you're master of ipkgs. :)

No. I'm justing trying to learn from gurus like you & rod.
04-07-2005, 13:00
jnaeff@mac.com

Saned Working

I'm trying to get saned working on my wl500g. Saned is working but it isn't detecting my HP PSC 2100. Does any body got it working.

Hope to hear from you soon. I'm real looking forward to get it working.
23-08-2005, 01:01
alex_g

its working

Hello,

After figuring out for several hours what's wrong I got an solution:

The main problem is that the required kernel module for scanner support is not yet compiled in the wl500g kernel (and I found it nowhere on the net)

Here a list of my steps:

Precondition: / must be writable!

1) I had to recompile the sources in order to get the missing scanner.o kernel module (you can recompile the sources for yourself or I can send you the module; just mail me your email adress )

-> trying an "insmod scanner" -> result:

usb.c: registered new driver usbscanner
scanner.c: USB scanner device (0x04a9/0x220d) now attached to scanner0
scanner.c: 0.4.16:USB Scanner Driver
so far so good...

now you can try sane-find-scanner and check if your scanner is found

2) ipkg install xinetd (from unslung)
3) ipkg install sane-backends (from unslung)
4) remove all files from /opt/etc/xinetd.d:
rm /opt/etc/xinetd.d/*
5) create a new file in /opt/etc/xinetd.d/ called saned containing the following lines:

service saned
{
port = 6566
socket_type = stream
server = /opt/sbin/saned
protocol = tcp
user = root
group = root
wait = no
disable = no
}

6) add the following line to /etc/services:
saned 6566/tcp # SANE network scanner daemon
7) copy /etc/services to /usr/local/etc/services
8) edit /opt/etc/sane.d/saned.conf:
add the following line (after adapting it to your network):
192.168.1.0/24 #grant access to scanner from network 192.168.1.x
9) finally edit /usr/local/sbin/post-boot and add the following lines:

insmod scanner # load scanner module first
cp /usr/local/etc/services /etc/services # copy the previously modified services file to /etc
/opt/sbin/xinetd # start xinetd as wrapper for saned

10) finally.. (pooh) do a

flashfs save && flashfs commit && flashfs enable

11) reboot

To use the system from remote you have to adapt your local /etc/sane.d/net.conf and add the adress of the router to the file.

It is also possible to access the scanner over net via windows. (See www.sane-project.org for details)

HINTS:
after installing xinetd and sane-backends you can do "/opt/sbin/xinetd -d" for debugging output: when doing sane-find-scanner from another machine you should see xinetd starting and stopping saned

you may also test sane-find-scanner after loading the module to see if your scanner is supported:
05-09-2005, 23:12
alex_g

1 Attachment(s)

addition

oops... I found the upload button...

put the module into

/lib/modules/2.4.20/kernel/drivers/usb
27-11-2005, 16:17
lohmueller

Scanner detected but unable to scan

Hi all

I tried to attach an Epson USB-Scanner to my WL500gx. At first it looks good, but I'm unable to scan anything. Directly connected to my linux-notebook, this scanner works great with sane.

What I did:
- Installed sane-backends
- and alex_g's scanner.o

sane-find-scanner shows me now the device, but scanning with scanimage does not work (see output below).

Any ideas?

Thanks.

Thomas

Code:

[admin@router /tmp]$ sane-find-scanner ... found USB scanner (vendor=0x04b8, product=0x011d) at /dev/usb/scanner0 found USB scanner (vendor=0x04b8 [EPSON], product=0x011d [EPSON Scanner], chip=LM983x?) at libusb:001:002 # Your USB scanner was (probably) detected. It may or may not be supported by # SANE. Try scanimage -L and read the backend's manpage. ... [admin@router /tmp]$ scanimage -L No scanners were identified. If you were expecting something different, check that the scanner is plugged in, turned on and detected by the sane-find-scanner tool (if appropriate). Please read the documentation which came with this software (README, FAQ, manpages).
03-06-2006, 09:15
noiser

hi!

can someone tell me how i can copy the scanner.o into the directory /lib/modules/2.4.20/kernel/drivers/usb/ ?

it seams that this is a readonly file system. then when i want to creat a new textfile with nano in this directory, there comes an error " [ Could not open file for writing: Read-only file system ] "

can somebody help me?

thanks!
10-06-2006, 08:35
snobordo

Quote:

Originally Posted by noiser

then when i want to creat a new textfile with nano in this directory, there comes an error " [ Could not open file for writing: Read-only file system ] "

Here is the answer:

Quote:

Originally Posted by alex_g

Precondition: / must be writable!

Here it is explained how to do this.
21-06-2006, 11:58
noiser

ok. so i need to write a procedure into the post-firewall which copys the scanner.o file to /lib/modules/2.4.20/kernel/drivers/usb/ ?

what is the meaning of / must be writable?

greez
26-06-2006, 16:38
snobordo

Quote:

Originally Posted by noiser

ok. so i need to write a procedure into the post-firewall which copys the scanner.o file to /lib/modules/2.4.20/kernel/drivers/usb/ ?

what is the meaning of / must be writable?

greez

'/' = root directory

I posted a link to a howto. The topic is "Root file system on the external USB drive"
10-01-2007, 17:44
wiz

If you don't want to have a writeable / here's what I did:

I've put scanner.o in /opt/scanner (/opt is writeable ). Then put in post-boot 'insmod /opt/scanner/scanner.o' instead of 'insmod scanner'.

I am happy though with the guidance in this thread, I've got my HP scanjet up and running nicely now so everyone can use the scanner and not everyone needs my pc since it had the scanner attached :D
18-01-2007, 23:25
cimarron

I just spend 4 hours on setting up my WL-500gP (hdd, partition, mount, post-boot, etc) to get SANE working with my Epson DX6000.
I just finished installing "sane-backends" with ipkg.

Now I'm stuck.
How do I copy the scanner.o.bz2 file from my windows desktop to the router?
18-01-2007, 23:42
CountZero

ftp is a easy choice.
19-01-2007, 14:14
cimarron

Is FTP available out of the OLEG package? Can I just "ftp://192.168.1.1"? I can't access my box at home now. So I can't try right now.
19-01-2007, 16:59
CountZero

You can simply enable it from the web interface. It is the same procedure as in the standard firmware.
04-03-2007, 22:17
Dutchman

Hi,

I tried to connect my HP Scanjer 3500C to my WL-500G Deluxe.
I have followed this howto:

Quote:

1) I had to recompile the sources in order to get the missing scanner.o kernel module (you can recompile the sources for yourself or I can send you the module; just mail me your email adress )

-> trying an "insmod scanner" -> result:

usb.c: registered new driver usbscanner
scanner.c: USB scanner device (0x04a9/0x220d) now attached to scanner0
scanner.c: 0.4.16:USB Scanner Driver
so far so good...

now you can try sane-find-scanner and check if your scanner is found

2) ipkg install xinetd (from unslung)
3) ipkg install sane-backends (from unslung)
4) remove all files from /opt/etc/xinetd.d:
rm /opt/etc/xinetd.d/*
5) create a new file in /opt/etc/xinetd.d/ called saned containing the following lines:

service saned
{
port = 6566
socket_type = stream
server = /opt/sbin/saned
protocol = tcp
user = root
group = root
wait = no
disable = no
}

6) add the following line to /etc/services:
saned 6566/tcp # SANE network scanner daemon
7) copy /etc/services to /usr/local/etc/services
8) edit /opt/etc/sane.d/saned.conf:
add the following line (after adapting it to your network):
192.168.1.0/24 #grant access to scanner from network 192.168.1.x
9) finally edit /usr/local/sbin/post-boot and add the following lines:

insmod scanner # load scanner module first
cp /usr/local/etc/services /etc/services # copy the previously modified services file to /etc
/opt/sbin/xinetd # start xinetd as wrapper for saned

10) finally.. (pooh) do a

flashfs save && flashfs commit && flashfs enable

11) reboot

Everything looks fine in systemlog:

Quote:

Jan 1 01:02:57 xinetd[141]: xinetd Version 2.3.14 started with no options compiled in.
Jan 1 01:02:57 xinetd[141]: Started working: 1 available service

Quote:

Jan 1 01:00:26 kernel: usb.c: registered new driver usbscanner
Jan 1 01:00:26 kernel: scanner.c: USB scanner device (0x03f0/0x2205) now attached to scanner0
Jan 1 01:00:26 kernel: scanner.c: 0.4.16:USB Scanner Driver

and sane-find-scanner give:

Quote:

found USB scanner (vendor=0x03f0, product=0x2205) at /dev/usb/scanner0

and "scanimage -L" give:

Quote:

[admin@routertje root]$ scanimage -L
device `hp3500:/dev/usb/scanner0' is a Hewlett-Packard ScanJet 3500 scanner

I have tried to scan from my windows PC with Sanetwain, it says "connected to 192.168.1.2" , but give a time out!!
And when i try that, the system log give:

Quote:

Jan 1 01:04:05 xinetd[143]: START: saned pid=186 from=192.168.1.101

that's looks ok...

Can anyone help me? :)
05-03-2007, 16:19
Dutchman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dutchman

Hi,

I tried to connect my HP Scanjer 3500C to my WL-500G Deluxe.
I have followed this howto:

Everything looks fine in systemlog:

and sane-find-scanner give:

and "scanimage -L" give:

I have tried to scan from my windows PC with Sanetwain, it says "connected to 192.168.1.2" , but give a time out!!
And when i try that, the system log give:

that's looks ok...

Can anyone help me? :)

Ok, it works now...don't know what was wrong :confused: but.. it's very slowly!
23-06-2007, 17:30
renegade

Microtek ScanMaker 3600 doesn't work

Hi!

I have a Microtek ScanMaker 3600 scanner, but it doesn't work with my WL500gx router.

It is my scanner in /proc/bus/usb/devices:

T: Bus=03 Lev=02 Prnt=03 Port=02 Cnt=01 Dev#= 4 Spd=12 MxCh= 0
D: Ver= 1.00 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=ff Prot=ff MxPS=64 #Cfgs= 1
P: Vendor=05da ProdID=40b3 Rev= 0.00
C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=60 MxPwr=100mA
I: If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=ff Prot=ff Driver=(none)
E: Ad=82(I) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 64 Ivl=0ms

Output of lsmod:

Module Size Used by
scanner 11996 0 (unused)
usb-storage 62184 3
sd_mod 13292 6
scsi_mod 70216 2 [usb-storage sd_mod]
videodev 8344 0 (unused)
audio 50680 0 (unused)
soundcore 5320 0 [audio]
printer 12676 0
ehci-hcd 23820 0 (unused)
usb-uhci 28564 0 (unused)
usbcore 77264 1 [scanner usb-storage audio printer ehci-hcd usb-uhci]
ip_nat_ftp 3944 0 (unused)
ip_conntrack_ftp 5248 1
ipt_NETMAP 992 2
ip_nat_starcraft 2224 0 (unused)
wl 423856 0 (unused)
et 34912 0 (unused)

Output of dmesg | grep scanner*

usb.c: registered new driver usbscanner
scanner.c: 0.4.16:USB Scanner Driver

Why doesn't recognize the kernel my scanner?

Sorry for my poor english... :-(
24-06-2007, 11:08
renegade

Problem fixed. I wrote in post-boot:

Code:

insmod /opt/scanner/scanner.o vendor=0x05da product=0x40b3

So sane finds my scanner.

But I have got a new problem: xinetd can't start service sane.

Output of xinetd -d :

Code:

07/6/24@11:45:43: DEBUG: 170 {handle_includedir} Reading included configuration file: /opt/etc/xinetd.d/saned [file=/opt/etc/xinetd.conf] [line=15] Service defaults Instances = 60 CPS = max conn:25 wait:30 Bind = All addresses. Only from: localhost(HOST) 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0(NET) No access: No blocked sites Logging to syslog. Facility = authpriv, level = info Log_on_success flags = HOST PID Log_on_failure flags = HOST Service configuration: sane id = sane flags = IPv4 socket_type = stream Protocol (name,number) = (tcp,6) port = 6566 wait = no user = 0 group = 0 Groups = no PER_SOURCE = -1 Bind = All addresses. Server = /opt/sbin/saned Server argv = saned /opt/etc/sane.d/sm3600.conf Only from: localhost(HOST) 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0(NET) No access: No blocked sites Logging to syslog. Facility = authpriv, level = info Log_on_success flags = HOST PID Log_on_failure flags = HOST 07/6/24@11:45:43: ERROR: 170 {activate_normal} bind failed (Address already in use (errno = 125)). service = sane 07/6/24@11:45:43: ERROR: 170 {cnf_start_services} Service sane failed to start and is deactivated. 07/6/24@11:45:43: DEBUG: 170 {cnf_start_services} mask_max = 0, services_started = 0 07/6/24@11:45:43: CRITICAL: 170 {init_services} no services. Exiting...

Any idea?
25-06-2007, 20:17
wiz

yeah, you forgot to copy the /etc/services thingy.

Code:

add the following line to /etc/services: saned 6566/tcp # SANE network scanner daemon copy /etc/services to /usr/local/etc/services edit /usr/local/sbin/post-boot and add the following lines: insmod scanner # load scanner module first cp /usr/local/etc/services /etc/services # copy the previously modified services

if the /etc/services file does not have an entry saned 6566/tcp in it it moans about no services.

hope this helps.

cheers,

Wiz

p.s. you can check with grep saned /etc/services. If it is not there, copy /etc/services to /usr/local/etc/services, and add the entry. Do not forget to do a flashfs save, flashfs commit and flashfs enable.
26-06-2007, 07:47
renegade

Quote:

Originally Posted by wiz

yeah, you forgot to copy the /etc/services thingy.

No, it's OK. But I'm stupid. If xinetd already runs, then "xinetd -d" can't start again sane... :-(

Now I have a new failure notice:

Code:

[sm3600] sane_start: Error during device I/O [sm3600] cancel called... [sm3600] closing scanner [sm3600] Error status: 9, Timeout while waiting for CSTAT

What have I to do?
26-06-2007, 16:38
wiz

remove the vendor statements from the insmod statement for the scanner.o file. maybe that helps?

what does scanimage -L say?
28-06-2007, 20:53
renegade

Quote:

Originally Posted by wiz

remove the vendor statements from the insmod statement for the scanner.o file. maybe that helps?

No. The scanner.o finds nothing without the vendor statements.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wiz

what does scanimage -L say?

Code:

device `sm3600:/dev/usb/scanner0' is a Microtek ScanMaker 3600 flatbed scanner
01-07-2007, 19:53
wiz

sounds like sane does know your scanner.

What I find strange is that you have to supply the vendor statements in order to get it running. My scanner is an HP 3400C and all I do is load scanner.o and that's it.

According to sane website it states your scanner is basically supported:

http://www.sane-project.org/

I don't have any idea why yours does not work.
19-07-2007, 13:16
kacper

What can I do if my scanner is not supported by SANE without a external backend (driver)? My scanner is a Brother DCP-115C.

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