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Hey Guys,
I currently have a Asus WL-500g and was thinking about ordering a Linksys WRT54G (the one based on the same firmware as the WL-500g) because it's only 50 bucks at amazon.com (after rebate). I was wondering if anyone has had any experience (success or failure) with wireless bridging between these two products.
Thanks
exactly same as my need.
i use wl500g (for the full featured and bw management) as the main router connected to my adsl modem.
set as home gateway ap.
client can ping and browse as they should...
and looking for cheap wireless to setup as wds to extend the range.
my choice is linksys wrt54g.
i'd upload the hyperwrt firmware and make necessary changes as instruction i read somewhere on linksysinfo.com
i'd successfully ping the wrt54g and client can assosiated to it.
BUT...
client cant ping to the wl500g nor have internet access from it.
i wonder what wrong.
any help will be very appreciated. tnx.
nb.
wl500g fw 1.9.2.7-4
wrt54g fw hyperwrt
use wds mode, i use linksyses and AP 500g , with 4-5 wds connections and it works perfect....
and alchemy of course on linksyses, or if you want client mode , must use samdahi 2.00 on linksys...
it's great that you successfully set it up.
i'd heard too many success story already.
but, i wonder why there's so very little detailing their step-by-step how to
so that others can follow the success...
please.
your detailed instruction on how you set it up.
t.i.a.
1. setup asus in wds-ap mode
2. setup bridge in HYBRID mode
3. add mac adress of linksys unit
4. reboot
(note that all units wil be on a same subnet)
5. put alchemy firmware in linksys
6. set it up in AP mode
7. go to wds panel and add mac adress of asus unit
8. set it up in LAN (NOT P2P) wds mode
9. reboot
thats it...
it's looks too simple. for those who does this everyday...
but, practically some details left out and make it very hard for newbies to follows.
after 3 days working on this. i finally make it works.
and simple mistakes that happened and not detailed in the instruction is:
mac address!
in linksys, the mac address printed in the bottom is NOT the wireless mac.
so.
you have to find the wireless mac address and put it in the wds settings.
it's obvious for those who play a lot with this.
but not for newbies.
this is my setting:
adsl modem --> asus wl500g hybrid mode --> wrt54g + ddwrt as wds --> wrt54g + hyperwrt as another wds
(i like ddwrt but second wrt54g is v2.2 so cant put dd-wrt in it)
asus wl500g also attached to an 8port switch for local network.
it works great!
with little exception i cant find out why?
why is it sometimes the asus wl500g seems to 'hang'
when i do ping to the asus (from ethernet) sometimes i got <1ms
(that's great!) but sometimes i got 200 or 800 or sometimes even got timed out.
at that time, only 2 pc connected to the lan and about 10 pc by wireless.
any help please...
more question:
- what different lan/p2p mode in wds?
- can i attached a pc to the wrt54g (in wds mode) and still access the internet?
(i shoud try it, but now the unit is not easily reached...)
- how do i administer the wds while i cant open the admin and cant even ping it? say i like to add another wds mac address into it.
is cable the only way?
(like i said, the unit is now not easily reached. so attaching cable to it is not very easy)
tnx.
yes,i forgot to say that linksys is not like asus, it has 3 mac adresses, very similar one to another, diference is in last digit
every interface has unique mac, ethernet,wlan,and wan
What authentication and encryption has been used?
WPA-PSK and AES?
I have a 3com with ADSL modem, router, fw, WiFi, almost "everything",
but no WDS (and USB). (connected to ISP in Bridge mode, 1 dyn. IP)
So I bought 2 WL-500g Deluxe to interconnect, using WDS (Hybrid Bridge),
one of the ASUS connected to the 3com by cable.
The router connected to 3com would I like to set up as an "Access Point"
and the other as "Home Gateway".
With no encryption and MAC masking it seems like it worked. But I would
like to use WPA-PSK TKIP Encryption, as I use this for my other equipment.
But I can't get it working. I have upgraded both bootloader and FW.
Has anyone tried something similar ? Or can anyone tell me what to do ?
I'm lost ...
Search forum. Already been discussed.
you can try this antique firmware:
http://files.wl500g.info/asus/custom/oleg/1.8.1.7-3/
i'm not sure if the wl500gx version will work correctly or maybe the newest beta (1.9.4.0 but it's not up yet)
and yes as said see forum and see FAQ section KNOWN BUGS: http://wl500g.info/faq.php?faq=asus_wl_x#faq_knownbugs
I have downgraded to gx-1.8.1.7-3 but it seems like the WAN port is
dead after the bootloader upgrade. (the light's in both 3com and ASUS
is showing there is a cable connected)
Even for the router set as "Access Point" I'm unable to communicate
through the WAN Port.
One of the servers had hardware_version -> WL500gx-01-03-01-33
and the other 01-01-01-33. Now both have WL500gd-01-04-01-50
pmon.zip link: http://wl500g.info/showthread.php?t=1704
What can I do to get's my WAN port back ?
even more lost ...
Do not use WAN port in the AP mode for now and wait for next firmware.Quote:
Originally Posted by arnulf
anyone ? any idea? please...
is it possibly because the asus dont have enough power to handle the connection?
Quote:
Originally Posted by rexster
Hi,
I've two wileys actually configured with WDS (hybrid mode) over WEP128.
I'm trying to migrate to WPA or WEP using a 802.1x/EAP-TLS authentication.
I've freeradius setup and functional on one wiley, on which I can authenticate my users using EAP/TLS.
I now have two problem :
1) the 'nas' process which sometimes dies (tomilius has already written a nice thread on it).
2) I'm unable to setup a working WDS between the two wileys when using 802.1x auth. I guess this is related to nas, but don't know where to start. Or maybe I need a "802.1x client" on the second wiley.
My view is not really clear between encryption/authentication, so please correct me if some terms are unappropriate.
Does somebody have allready setup a WDS link using WPA or WEP with 802.1x auth. ? any hints ?
Thanks a lot.
JF
JF, this will not work with 1.9.2.7 for sure. :(
Hello! :D I've never done WDS (I can't imagine myself buying another one of these things... *shudder*), but Oleg helped me with the nas problem you're having. First of all, put this in pre-boot (you know, after #!/bin/sh if you don't already have it, and don't forget to chmod +x):
mount -obind /dev/null /usr/sbin/nas
As you may be able to tell, that just makes it so when the system tries to call nas, it ends up reaching nothing (except /dev/null). This way, you can launch it on your own time after you've finished up loading freeradius (that is, it's finished loading itself up). Assuming you have freeradius configured correctly, here's what I added to post-boot:
Here are some essential files (which need to be chmod +x'd as well);Code:# THIS IS THE TOP OF THE FILE
# Bring down the WLAN interface until radius server is loaded
wl down
# THIS IS CLOSER TO THE BOTTOM IF NOT THE BOTTOM
# Start freeradius
/usr/local/sbin/start-radius
# Wait for radius port 1812 to open before moving further...
# You can change this to another method of checking to
# make sure freeradius is fully loaded if you feel the need.
# I'm not even fully sure that this is a good way to do it.
i=0
loaded=
while [ -z "$loaded" ]
do
loaded=`netstat -an | grep ":1812" | grep ":*"`
usleep 100000
let "i += 1"
if [ "$i" -eq 100 ]; then break; fi
done
# Sleep another second for good luck
sleep 1
# Bring the WLAN interface back up
wl up
# Start nas
/usr/local/sbin/start-nas
/usr/local/sbin/start-radius:
/usr/local/sbin/start-nasCode:#!/bin/sh
# The following ensures that the correct
# library for libcrypto.so is being used
# (the same one is located in /usr/lib in
# older firmware but has recently been
# change to libkrypto.so :) ).
export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/lib
export LD_PRELOAD=/opt/lib/libcrypto.so
if [ -n "`pidof radiusd`" ]; then
/bin/killall radiusd 2>/dev/null
fi
if [ ! -d /var/spool/log/radius ] ; then
mkdir -p /var/spool/log/radius
fi
# NOTE! I have a script set up to clean out
# log files like this every few days (removes
# the old .old and renames the .log to .old).
# You may not want it to output to
# /opt/radiusd.log unless you have space or
# are willing to clean it or set up a cron
# script as well. If you're not, just take out
# " > /opt/radiusd.log", but you should
# probably leave it at first for testing.
/opt/sbin/radiusd -y -z -X -A > /opt/radiusd.log &
OK, so, as far as I know nas dies (I think it commits suicide) if it can't contact the radius server, which in this case is freeradius and is itself. If it dies any other time for you, I'd suggest setting up a cron task to keep important stuff like that running.Code:#!/bin/sh
# Kill it if it's running
killall nas
# Use correct library
export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib
# Allow access to nas again (unmount
# it from /dev/null)
umount /usr/sbin/nas
# I throw these in a lot. May/may not
# be necessary. I haven't removed it
# because "if it ain't broke don't fix it."
# So shoot me.
# Sleep for 10 milliseconds to (probably
# unnecessarily) make time for an
# umount.
usleep 10000
# Launch nas
nas /tmp/nas.lan.conf /tmp/nas.lan.pid lan &
Sorry--in light of Oleg's post, this likely didn't help you very much.
That is a long post for sure :)
I knew I was right catching your attention on this ;)
It will help me for sure, resolving the nas die issue. Thank you very much Tomilius. I will give news as soon as it works.
@Oleg :
any structural reason this can't work ?
anyway, what about a - not very nice - way that is :
client mode with wpa_supplicant (I just pushed a first_attempt_package to unslung) on a wiley to register on the other one plus routing plus freeradius on both wiley to authenticate users. This is not very nice, I agree... but ?
JF
Well, don't be so sure. As I've said, I've never done WDS. And a lot of it was basically padding, lol, which is now located at http://wl500g.info/showthread.php?p=16351#post16351.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jean-Fabrice
Other idea :
would it be possible (now or in a future firmware) to have wds and normal wifi supplicant using two differents authentication & encryption scheme ?
wds bridge could use shared key while others 'normal' clients would use ... what they want...
I can't figure now if this is totally absurd or not. If someone has good wifi knowledge, help is more than welcome.
JF
My WiFi knowledge isn't that good, but I can tell you that anything as advanced and obscure as what you're trying to do probably won't be easily or cheaply available on "this generation" of hardware. As for software (which is really the key but companies enjoy charging more and making it seem like hardware), Broadcom, I believe, holds the source code to the utilities necessary to allow such an advanced configuration... Maybe somebody else can confirm/deny this, but if that's true, then I don't think it will be possible with this router. Just my 2 cents.
The problem is that WPA is broken in the 1.9.2.7 release... Also, it looks like this never worked with old firmwares too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jean-Fabrice
Have no idea. Does not look to be simple. :)Quote:
anyway, what about a - not very nice - way that is :
client mode with wpa_supplicant (I just pushed a first_attempt_package to unslung) on a wiley to register on the other one plus routing plus freeradius on both wiley to authenticate users. This is not very nice, I agree... but ?
Hi,
A couple of days ago I got a WL500gx. Not particularly for his routing capabilities but more for his wireless server capabilities (small, quit, power efficient, USB etc.). I configured it as a WDS client with my WRT54g but have some problems with it... see picture for an overview.
This is the status and problem I have:
- the wl500gx (configured as a WDS client) and wrt54g connect correctly via WDS.
- the wl500gx has the latest OLEG firmware (5a).
- the wrt54g is static configured as 192.168.1.1 and the wl500gx as 192.168.1.2.
- when I connect my PC to the wl500gx i get a DHCP (different range than the DHCP from the wrt54g) and have internet connection via de wrt54g.
- when I go back to the preffered situation where my PC is connected to the wrt54g, I can telnet to the wl500gx and can configure it.
- when I telnet to the wl500gx and do 'ping 192.168.1.1' I get a reply.
- when I telnet to the wl500gx and do 'ping google.nl' I get "network unreachable" or (I don't remember the setting) no reply at all, however I do get a DNS resolve.
So, it seems that the wl500gx itself cannot connect to the internet while a pc connected to the wl500gx can?!? This results into that I cannot use the IPKG facility due to the fact that it needs internet. Does anywhone recognize this problem and knows a sollution?? I am not a complete newbie to linux but still lack mutch knowledge :).
Thanks in advance,
Tom
On the wl500g you should set the wrt54g as default gateway ;)
Owkee, but how do I do this... In the web control panel there is not an option for this I think... And which interface should have this as a default gateway?Quote:
Originally Posted by phedny
OK after some searching this seems to do the trick!!
route add default gw 192.168.1.1
Thanks for the tip!
Hi,
I have some problems using emule behind my second AP. I am using two 500g with WPA-PSK-encryption, one in Hybrid-Mode, one in Access-point-mode. The WDS+WPA-PSK works after some hard work (and the great help of some guys here :cool: :cool: ) fine, but now I have some probs with emule.
At my main-Router I configured a virtual server:
192.168.1.87 4662 TCP EMULE-TCP
192.168.1.87 4672 UDP EMULE-UDP
In the past when I used only one wl500g this works great, but now I have no chance to configure the virtual server at the second 500g (AP) and so I recieve everytime a lowID.
Has someone some reccomendations?
Thanks for your help!!
You probably gonna need to do the port-forwarding using iptables commands. Dunno how to though...
i found out that mac filtering works per router base.
so, i have to enter the same mac address allowed to enter my network all over my wds/repeater.
is there an easy way to make this automatic?
so, i only need to change the mac filter list in one router and all other wds/repeater gets their list from this one router.
how can i do this?
tnx.
Hi,
I have two WL-500g Deluxe (WL1 and WL2) with original firmware (1.8.2.1) connected in WDS mode. I have two PC (PC1 and PC2), first wired to WL1 and second wired to WL2. Internet connected to WL1.
I can to copy files from PC1 in PC2 but I cant' access internet from PC2. I would like to shared internet connection.
thanks for your help.
Stop DHCP on WL2 and let PC2 acquire an IP from WL1 DHCP server.
It should be ok then.
EDIT : just put WL2 in access point mode (this should automatically disabled dhcp).
JF
Thanks for yout help.
Hi
Since upgrading from .6a to .6b I havent been able to make my WL500g deluxe connect as a WDS client.
It simply dosnt connect, even though I do have the correct MAC (the mac of my primary router) in the list, and the correct WEP key and channel selected.
I have tried to downgrade to .6a again, but the problem seem to persist regardless.....I dont know if there is any kind of NVRAM setting that is faulty after running .6b.....even though I did reset to factory defaults.
Does anyone have simular problems?
For a couple of days I am trying to get WDS working between my WL500g and digiconnect AP. This is what I tried:
In Wireless - Bridge I filled in the mac addresses of both routers. I tried the AP mode in Hybrid and WDS only.
In the digiconnect AP I filled in the same two mac addresses. No options. I can only select enable and disable.
Bot routers use the same channel.
Now when I look with ifconfig I get this:
So it seems like there is no connection.Quote:
wds0.4915 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:11:xx:xx:xx:FD
inet6 addr: fe80::211:2fff:xxxx:xxfd/10 Scope:Link
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)
What I want is that the digiconnect router extends my asus ap. What kind of wan and lan addresses should I use for the digiconnect?
Anything I can try?
checklist:
- make sure the mac address is the wireless mac address. not the ethernet mac address.
- i dont know digiconnect. make sure it really support wds
- first try, disable all mac filtering, encryption, etc. after it works, you can try enable those one at a time
- make sure the ip is the same subnet. both set to the same gateway
- both have same ssid, same channel
i think that's all.
search the forum and read the wiki, there are some solved problems you can learn.
I have the problem and the solution also works for me.
BUT: How can I make this permanent? Each time I reset the router this setting gets lost.
Rgds,
Guti
I have been using WEP + WDS for some time now between 2 Airports (Extreme + Express) and 2 Asuses (WLHDD and WL500G).
After witnessing the Whoppix demonstration I felt it necessary to upgrade to WPA. Changing the Airports over to WPA + WDS was a breeze, but I am unable to get either of the Asus devices to join the network. I have spent countless hours now reading and experimenting but to no avail.
Are there any success stories out there of Asus devices using WPA and WDS with non Asus devices? specifically with Airports? Would it be worth my time trying out OpenWRT?
Hi!
as per an earlier thread I am still trying to set up a WDS using my WL500g and the WL330. :mad: :mad:
Following the instructions on this bord and on tha ASUS pages I can get to the poin where I can connect the router and the AP. Looking in the AP settings I can see the router being assiciated. (an information which I cannot find in the router setting:() .
As of today I can ping the router and the AP beeing connected to either the two WLANs (I use two different SSIDs). Unfortunately being connected to the AP network I cannot access the WAN and DHCP does not work. :mad: Being connected to the router I can Access the WAN and I get an IP from it's DHCP. :)
Is there anyone out there who has a idea which setting needs to be revised so that I can access the WAN thru the WDS (in other words via the WDS thru the router) beeing connected to the AP?
Thanks for any hint!
mn1099
I have just read the Installation Guide from the WL330 ... there it talks about Point-to-Point connecteions between different APs in a WDS network...
To me this still emans that I shall be able to acccess the WAN using a clinet that is connected to the AP (WL330) and that AP is functioning as a bridge to the router (WL500g) where the WAN is connected ...
Or is the above just wishfull thnking? :confused:
cheers
mn1099