Ïðîáëåìû ñ îñòàíîâêîé âíåøíåãî HDD (hdparm)

Âñåì ïðèâåò. Åñòü îäíà íàñóùíàÿ ïðîáëåìà/âîïðîñ:
Ó ìåíÿ Asus WL-HDD ñ ïîñëåäíåé ïðîøèâêîé îò Îëåãà (ðåñïåêò). Âñå ïðåêðàñíî ðàáîòàåò, íî âèíò êðóòèòñÿ ïîñòîÿííî. Ïèê íàãðóçîê ïðèõîäèòñÿ íà âå÷åð, à íî÷üþ îáðàùåíèé íåò. Âèíò Seagate IDE (internal). Âîçìîæíî ëè êàê òî àêòèâèðîâàòü sleep mode? ×òîáû âèíò ïåðåñòàâàë êðóòèòüñÿ ïðè îòñóòñòâèè àêòèâíîñòè (10-30 ìèíóò). Ïðî÷èòàë âåñü ôîðóì, íè÷åãî íå íàøåë. Çàäàë âîïðîñ íà òåõ. ïîääåðæêå Asus - îòâåòèëè íåò, íåëüçÿ.
Îáëàçèë âñþ Îëåãîâñêóþ ïðîøèâêó - òîæå íè÷åãî íå íàøåë.
Áóäó ïðèçíàòåëåí çà îòâåò.

Ìîæíî. Åñëè íàïèñàòü ñêðèïò èç êîòîðîãî áóäåò âûçûâàòüñÿ hdparm. Ñêðèïò ãäå-òî áûë ïîõîæèé íà http://www.nslu2-linux.org/, òîëüêî òàì ãëóøàò usb óñòðîéñòâî, íî ïðèíöèï òàêîé æå.

Ñïàñèáî çà îòâåò Îëåã.
ß óæå ïðàêòè÷åñêè âñå ïðî÷èòàë òàì.
Ó ìåíÿ âîò òàêîé âîïðîñ åùå, à íå áóäåò ëè ýòî âðåäíî äëÿ HDD?
 òîì ïëàíå, êóäà ïèøóòñÿ ëîãè ÎÑ? Åñëè íà âèíò, òî îòïðàâëÿòü åãî â ñëèï ìîä - íå åñòü ïðàâèëüíî, ò.ê. ñèñòåìà "çàäåðãàåò" âèíò è àìîðòèçàöèÿ âèíòà áóäåò åùå áîëüøå.
À âîò åñëè ëîãè ïèøóòñÿ â ÎÇÓ, à âèíò èñïîëüçóåòñÿ òîëüêî êàê õðàíèëèùå äàííûõ, òîãäà èìååò ñìûñë íàïðÿãàòüñÿ íàñ÷åò àêòèâàöèè ñëèïà.
È åùå òàêîé âîïðîñ (ïðîøó èçâèíèòü): Ñêðèïò êîòîðûé íàïèñàí ó ýòèõ ðåáÿò ìîæíî ââîäèòü ÷åðåç Web - èíòåðôåéñ (system command) èëè èíûì ïóòåì? (ñ Linux ïëîòíî ðàíüøå íå ñòàëêèâàëñÿ)...

Ëîãè ïèøóòñÿ â ïàìÿòü. Ñ ýòèì ïðîáëåì íåò.
Ìî¸ ìíåíèå òàêîå: êàæäûé ñòàðò-ñòîï öèêë óìåíüøàåò æèçíü, ïîýòîìó ëó÷øå, êîãäà îí êðóòèòñÿ íåïðåðûâíî, ïðè óñëîâèè, ÷òî îáåñïå÷èâàåòñÿ íîðìàëüíàâÿ âåíòèëÿöèÿ.

Ââîäèòü êîìàíäû íóæíî ÷åðåç Telnet/putty.

Äðóçüÿ, à êòî-íèáóäü óæå ñäåëàë îñòàíîâêó âíåøíåãî äèñêà?
Ýòî âîçìîæíî íà ïðîøèâêå Îëåãà, èëè îáÿçàòåëüíî íàäî ñâîþ ñîáèðàòü?

ß ïðîáîâàë îñòàíàâëèâàòü ñâîé - íå ïîëó÷àåòñÿ. :( Âèäèìî äåëî â êîðîáêå - ó ìåíÿ òàì ïðîëèôèê êàêîé-òî.

Ïîïðîáîâàòü îñòàíîâèòü ìîæíî âîò ýòîé ïðîãðàììîé:
http://oleg.wl500g.info/bin/scsi-stop

Ïîïðîáîâàë äâóìÿ ñïîñîáàìè:
./scsi-stop /dev/discs/disc0/disc
./scsi-stop /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc
Íå êàíàåò.
Áóäåì èñêàòü. : )

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Originally Posted by dfayruzov

Íå êàíàåò.

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òîæå íåêàíàåò.
Vendor: Cypress Semiconductor

Õì, ó ìåíÿ âñå ðàáîòàåò, ïîëüçóþñü óæå äàâíî.

Ó ìåíÿ hdd Samsung SP2504C, ïîäêëþ÷åííûé ÷åðåç êåéñ Vantec êàêîé-òî, sata->usb.

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Originally Posted by Mam(O)n

òîæå íåêàíàåò.
Vendor: Cypress Semiconductor

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à âèíò SATA èëè PATA?

âèíò PATA seagate barracuda 7200.9, ÷èï CY7C68300A-56PVC. Ïðîáîâàë îñòàíîâèòü íà äåñêòîïå ñ knoppix. Òàêæå íåõî÷åò îòêëþ÷àòüñÿ.

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Originally Posted by Xander

Õì, ó ìåíÿ âñå ðàáîòàåò, ïîëüçóþñü óæå äàâíî.

Ó ìåíÿ hdd Samsung SP2504C, ïîäêëþ÷åííûé ÷åðåç êåéñ Vantec êàêîé-òî, sata->usb.

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Äëÿ ÷èñòîòû ýêñïåðèìåíòà ìîæíî ïîïðîáîâàòü îñòàíîâèòü åãî òîé ïðîãðàììîé, ÷òî ÿ äàë.

Âèíò ó ìåíÿ òîæå ñàìñóíã ñïèíïîèíò, òîëüêî 80 ãèãàáàéò.

Ïîñìîòðåòü âåíäîðà ÷èïà ìîæíî ïîïðîáîâàòü òàê:

cat /proc/scsi/usb-storage-0/0

èëè

cat /proc/bus/usb/devices

è èñêàòü òàì VID&PID.

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Originally Posted by Oleg

Äëÿ ÷èñòîòû ýêñïåðèìåíòà ìîæíî ïîïðîáîâàòü îñòàíîâèòü åãî òîé ïðîãðàììîé, ÷òî ÿ äàë.

Âèíò ó ìåíÿ òîæå ñàìñóíã ñïèíïîèíò, òîëüêî 80 ãèãàáàéò.

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Åþ è îñòàíàâëèâàþ, íàòêíóëñÿ íà íåå ñëó÷àéíî ïàðó ìåñÿöåâ íàçàä, ñ òåõ ïîð ïîëüçóþñü. Äàæå ñêðèïò íàïèñàë, ìîæåò ïðèãîäèòñÿ êîìó-íèáóäü:
http://wl500g.info/showthread.php?p=45054#post45054

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Originally Posted by Oleg

Ïîñìîòðåòü âåíäîðà ÷èïà ìîæíî ïîïðîáîâàòü òàê:

cat /proc/scsi/usb-storage-0/0

èëè

cat /proc/bus/usb/devices

è èñêàòü òàì VID&PID.

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Ïåðâîå:
Host scsi0: usb-storage
Vendor: Sunplus Technology Inc.
Product: USB to Serial-ATA bridge
Serial Number: SAMSUNG SPS09QJ1NL805434
Protocol: Transparent SCSI
Transport: Bulk
GUID: 04fc0c15317ffffffffffff9
Attached: Yes

Âòîðîå:
T: Bus=03 Lev=01 Prnt=01 Port=01 Cnt=01 Dev#= 2 Spd=480 MxCh= 0
D: Ver= 2.00 Cls=00(>ifc ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS=64 #Cfgs= 1
P: Vendor=04fc ProdID=0c15 Rev=c6.83
S: Manufacturer=Sunplus Technology Inc.
S: Product=USB to Serial-ATA bridge
S: SerialNumber=SAMSUNG SPS09QJ1NL805434
C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=c0 MxPwr= 2mA
I: If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 2 Cls=08(stor.) Sub=06 Prot=50 Driver=usb-storage
E: Ad=81(I) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 512 Ivl=0ms
E: Ad=02(O) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 512 Ivl=0ms

Íàäåþñü, ïîìîæåò :)

Íó äà, òåïåðü ÿñíî, ÷òî SATA-USB êîðîáêè ñ SunPlus âíóòðè âèäèìî ðàáîòàþò. :)

:)
×òî æ, îñòàåòñÿ òîëüêî ïîðåêîìåíäîâàòü êîíòåéíåð - ýòî Vantec NexStar3 NST-360SU-BK.

Çàíÿòíî. Ñêàæèòå, îí îáðàòíî ñàì ðàñêðó÷èâàåòñÿ ïîòîì ïðè îáðàùåíèè, ò.å îòìîíòèðîâàòü íè÷åãî íå íàäî?
Çàâòðà áëèæå ê âå÷åðó ïðîòåñòèðóþ âñå òðè ñâîèõ âíåøíèõ äèñêà ;)

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Originally Posted by Duke

Çàíÿòíî. Ñêàæèòå, îí îáðàòíî ñàì ðàñêðó÷èâàåòñÿ ïîòîì ïðè îáðàùåíèè, ò.å îòìîíòèðîâàòü íè÷åãî íå íàäî?
Çàâòðà áëèæå ê âå÷åðó ïðîòåñòèðóþ âñå òðè ñâîèõ âíåøíèõ äèñêà ;)

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Äà, ïðè ïåðâîì îáðàùåíèè ñàì ðàñêðó÷èâàåòñÿ, åñòåñòâåííî ïðè ýòîì íåáîëüøèå òîðìîçà, íî íèêàêèõ íåïðèÿòíûõ ýôôåêòîâ.

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Host scsi0: usb-storage
Vendor: Cypress Semiconductor
Product: USB2.0 Storage Device
Serial Number: DEF10C9308EE
Protocol: Transparent SCSI
Transport: Bulk
GUID: 04b468300000def10c9308ee
Attached: Yes

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âèäèìî, íå ðàáîòàþò )

Îëåã äàë ïðîãðàììó äëÿ îñòàíîâêè âíåøíåãî äèñêà ,ÿ å¸ ñêà÷àë
à êóäà å¸ óñòàíàâëèâàòü? è êàê?
åù¸ ðàç èçâèíèòå çà ãëóïûé âîïðîñ

Íà ðîóòåðå (íàïðèìåð â òåëíåò ñåññèè) ñäåëàéòå òàê:

Code:

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cd /tmp
wget http://oleg.wl500g.info/bin/scsi-stop
chmod +x scsi-stop
./scsi-stop /dev/discs/disc0/disc

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Åñëè äèñê îñòàíîâèëñÿ - Âàì ïîâåçëî. Ìîæåòå ãëÿíóòü, êòî ïðîèçâîäèòåëü ÷èïà.

Ïèøåò chmod:scsi-stop:No such file or directory
-sh: ./scsi-stop: Not found

À wget îøèáîê íå âåðíóë?

íåò ,íàïèñàë 100% è öèôðó íå ïîìíþ êàêóþ

Vizo Luxon + WD1600SD - íå ðàáîòàåò

Host scsi0: usb-storage
Vendor: JMicron
Product: JM20338 SATA, USB Combo
Serial Number: 8D88CA892915
Protocol: Transparent SCSI
Transport: Bulk
GUID: 152d233800008d88ca892915

Sarotech Cutie OTG FHD-254UM + WD400VE - íå ðàáîòàåò

Host scsi3: usb-storage
Vendor: Unknown
Product: USB 2.0 Storage Device
Serial Number: 00000000000123456789
Protocol: Transparent SCSI
Transport: Bulk
GUID: 040256370000000123456789

Western Digital Pocket Passport - õðåí ïîéìåøü, ÿ íå ñëûøó êàê îí êðóòèòñÿ :p

Host scsi4: usb-storage
Vendor: Western Digital
Product: External HDD
Serial Number: DEF10C04AFC1
Protocol: Transparent SCSI
Transport: Bulk
GUID: 105808000000def10c04afc1

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Originally Posted by Stas

íåò ,íàïèñàë 100% è öèôðó íå ïîìíþ êàêóþ

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Çíà÷èò ïîïðîáóéòå åãî åù¸ ðàç çàïóñòèòü. Ôàêò òî, ÷òî ôàéëà òàêîãî íåò.

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Originally Posted by Oleg

Çíà÷èò ïîïðîáóéòå åãî åù¸ ðàç çàïóñòèòü. Ôàêò òî, ÷òî ôàéëà òàêîãî íåò.

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Ïðîâåðèë â ïàïêå tmp ëåæèò scsi-stop (cd /tmp ,ïîòîì ls)
Äàëåå âûøåë èç òåëíåòà ,ïîòîì îïÿòü çàøåë òåëíåòîì
è äàë êîìàíäó ./scsi-stop /dev/discs/disc0/disc
Ïèøåò: -sh: ./scsi-stop /dev/discs/disc0/disc: not found

/tmp/scsi-stop /dev/discs/disc0/disc

Îëåã, ñêàæèòå ïîæàëóéñòà, scsi-stop - ýòî ÷àñòü scsi-idle? Âû íå ìåíÿëè èñõîäíèêè?

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Originally Posted by Xander

Îëåã, ñêàæèòå ïîæàëóéñòà, scsi-stop - ýòî ÷àñòü scsi-idle? Âû íå ìåíÿëè èñõîäíèêè?

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Íåò, íå ìåíÿë. Ïðîñòî îòêîìïèëèðîâàë.

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Originally Posted by Oleg

Íåò, íå ìåíÿë. Ïðîñòî îòêîìïèëèðîâàë.

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Ñïàñèáî. Ïîïðîáóþ èõ äåìîí çàïóñòèòü.

Îí íå çàðàáîòàåò.  ÿäðå íåò íóæíîãî ïàò÷à.

Äîáðûé äåíü !

Åñòü 500gp è âíåøíèé case 3,5, âñå íàñòðîåíî è ðàáîòàåò. ïðîâåðêà scsi-stop äàëà ïîëîæèòåëüíûé ð-ò - SpinDown âèíòà îñóùåñòâèëñÿ ;).
Ïîñêîëüêó âèíò ðàáîòàåò êðóãëîñóòî÷íî, à ðåàëüíî íàãðóçêà íà íà íåãî íå âåëèêà (ñåòü 3 ÷åëîâåêà, ôèëüìû ñìîòðÿò òîëüêî äíåì), òî âîçíèêëà èäåÿ ãàñèòü âèíò èëè ïî ðàñïèñàíèþ, èëè áîëåå ãðàìîòíî áûëî áû ãàñèòü ïðè îòñóòñâèè íàãðóçêè (îáðàùåíèé) â òå÷åíèè õõ ìèí/÷àñ.
Ñ ïåðâûì ïðîáëåì íåò cron + êîììàíäà scsi-stop.... Ñî âòîðûì... íå õâàòàåò äàííûõ î ïîñëåäíåì îáðàùåíèè ê âèíòó. Ãäå è êàê èõ ìîæíî íàäûáàòü ?

/proc/stat

Âîò òóò åñòü ãîòîâûé ñêðèïòèê.

Î ! áëàãîäàðþ ! ïîõîæå îòâåò â ñàìóþ òî÷êó ;)

Êñòàòè, íå ïîäåëèøüñÿ ìîäåëüþ áîêñà, äëÿ ñòàòèñòèêè? À òî íå âñÿê óìååò âèíòû îñòàíàâëèâàòü.

Äà, êîíå÷íî Vipower VPA-35018 (SATA-USB)


cat /proc/scsi/usb-storage-0/0

Host scsi1: usb-storage
Vendor: Sunplus Technology Inc.
Product: USB to Serial-ATA bridge
Serial Number: SAMSUNG HDS0MUJ1KP216348
Protocol: Transparent SCSI
Transport: Bulk
GUID: 04fc0c15315ffffffffffff9
Attached: Yes

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Originally Posted by neprosto

Äîáðûé äåíü !

òî âîçíèêëà èäåÿ ãàñèòü âèíò èëè ïî ðàñïèñàíèþ, èëè áîëåå ãðàìîòíî áûëî áû ãàñèòü ïðè îòñóòñâèè íàãðóçêè (îáðàùåíèé) â òå÷åíèè õõ ìèí/÷àñ.

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Ñòðàííî íî äî ñèõ ïîð(íà îñíîâàíèè äàííûõ èçãîòîâèòåëåé âèíòîâ) ÿ ñ÷èòàë ÷òî ÷àñòûå ñòàðò ñòîïû âèíò êàê ðàç è óáèâàþò, à êðóãëîñóòî÷íàÿ ðàáîòà(ïðè óñëîâèè äîëæíîãî îõëàæäåíèÿ) áîëåå áëàãîïðèÿòíà äëÿ íåãî.......

êñòàòèò íîóòáó÷íûå âèíòû ôèðìû fuji ïðè ïðîñòîå ñàìè îòêëþ÷àþòüñÿ ;)

äåëàòü îñòàíîâêó èìååò ñìûñë òîëüêî åñëè âíåøíèé âèíò èñïîëüçóåòñÿ òîëüêî êàê õðàíèëèùå äëÿ ôàéëîâ. åñëè íà í¸ì ëåæèò ñâîï èëè îí çàìîíòèðîâàí â /opt, îí áóäåò ïðàêòè÷åñêè ñðàçó æå ðàñêðó÷èâàòüñÿ ïîñëå îñòàíîâêè. òàêîé ðåæèì ïîñòîÿííîé îñòàíîâêè-ðàñêðóòêè äåéñòâèòåëüíî âðåäåí äëÿ âèíòîâ.

Íó ïî÷åìó æå ÷àñòûå ? Çíàåì ìû öèêë ñòàðò ñòîï íå íåñåò íè÷åãî õîðîøåãî :D Íî òåì íå ìåíåå ÿ ñ÷èòàþ, åñëè ê âèíòó çà èñòåêøèå 6 - 10÷ (â çàâèñèìîñòè îò âðåìåíè ñóòîê) íå áûëî íè îäíîãî îáðàùåíèÿ - ãàñèòü. ÈÌÕÎ.