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Antiloop
04-01-2004, 16:19
did someone manage to get 2 WL-500g's talking to eachother over WDS / Hybrid mode ?

i've 2 wl500g's(firm 1.6.5.3 patched) here, both in Hybrid mode,
added the MAC address of the remote wl500gs in it's remote bridge list, something seems to be working..

when i do 'ifconfig' it show's the normal devices plus this one:
wds0.2 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:0C:6E:9A:A9:46
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)

but i'm not really able to ping/reach the other wl500g/network

help me! :)

Noe
20-01-2004, 13:29
Hi, I had the same problem. Do you know where can I complain ?

Thanks
Dr. No Vilas Boas
University of Minho
Portugal

Antiloop
20-01-2004, 20:18
Originally posted by Noe
Hi, I had the same problem. Do you know where can I complain ?

Thanks
Dr. No Vilas Boas
University of Minho
Portugal

nope (or yes at asus..... don't expect much reply)

but it's reported working already by someone else

so the problem lies somewhere else i think

Wisi
01-03-2004, 23:25
no problem at all

i have two of them working twice (four wl-500g)

the problem here is the d-link pcmcia card

the two wl-500g are working together stable but the wlan card only logs in without transferring data...

Wisi
01-03-2004, 23:36
scenario:

2x Asus wl-500g

on in gateway mode, one in access point mode...

both of them are configured in hybrid mode and connect together.

anonymous access is disabled

access list with mac filter is on accept mode


in factory default mode with one asus wl-500g the pc card is working. if i put hybrid mode on the pc card isnt working any longer. someone has the same problem???

Antiloop
02-03-2004, 01:11
Originally posted by Wisi
no problem at all

i have two of them working twice (four wl-500g)

the problem here is the d-link pcmcia card

the two wl-500g are working together stable but the wlan card only logs in without transferring data...
what kind of chipset is that dlink card using??

Antiloop
02-03-2004, 01:14
Originally posted by Wisi
scenario:

2x Asus wl-500g

on in gateway mode, one in access point mode...

both of them are configured in hybrid mode and connect together.

anonymous access is disabled

access list with mac filter is on accept mode


in factory default mode with one asus wl-500g the pc card is working. if i put hybrid mode on the pc card isnt working any longer. someone has the same problem???

can you explain more?
does the card see your network, and you can connect and then it disconnects again and says network avaible and so on ?

i have this problem, don't know if it's because of the wds didn't try (note wds is turned on, because i forgot to turn it off) if it work with wds turned off ?

ps the card i'm having problems with is a Intersil based minipci card.

Wisi
02-03-2004, 08:36
i have no problem seeing the network

the card can also logon to the network and is shown up in the wl-500g with correct mac

it's a steady link to the network, no lose of connection

also the feature with switching to the nearest wl-500g is working

but the dhcp server doesn't give the pc card an ip wether any data is sent.

after this i connected my old router via cable to the asus wl-500g und used this one as access point for my pc card all is working again and the laptop has no problem with static ip to route to internet over the old router to the asus wl-500g...

same encryption mode (wep 128bit) and same password for the wlan. of course on another channel...

i dont see where the problem is...


i think it is the wds mode because i set one wl-500g back to factory default and used it as an ap. there the pc card was working. then i turned access filter on and the card was working again. turned on wds mode and the card could connect but no data was sent. had no time to verify this again but will do so the next days. you could check this another time with your card if you have the same "feature"

Wisi
02-03-2004, 08:37
hm, sorry dunno really

it's an d-link dwl-g650 with 54 MBit 802.11g standard.


edit: There are now actually two versions of the DWL-G650; version A1 has the PrismGT chipset, and version B1 has the Atheros 5211 chipset.

i should have a look at the pc card which version is in the laptop but the laptop isn't here...


edit2: and i see the prism is intersil... -> http://www.ofdmnews.com/publications/page362-436522.asp

Antiloop
02-03-2004, 09:07
Originally posted by Wisi
hm, sorry dunno really

it's an d-link dwl-g650 with 54 MBit 802.11g standard.


edit: There are now actually two versions of the DWL-G650; version A1 has the PrismGT chipset, and version B1 has the Atheros 5211 chipset.

i should have a look at the pc card which version is in the laptop but the laptop isn't here...


edit2: and i see the prism is intersil... -> http://www.ofdmnews.com/publications/page362-436522.asp

yes the dwl-g650 (the prism one) is based on the same chipset as that FUCKING mini-pci card..

Wisi
02-03-2004, 10:34
hm :(

i am really sure that i have rev a with prism

did you get another card working?

will try a centrino wlan card the next time...

Antiloop
02-03-2004, 10:53
Originally posted by Wisi
hm :(

i am really sure that i have rev a with prism

did you get another card working?

will try a centrino wlan card the next time...

11b cards will work :D

Antiloop
02-03-2004, 10:54
Originally posted by Wisi
hm :(

i am really sure that i have rev a with prism

did you get another card working?

will try a centrino wlan card the next time...

11b cards will work :D

Wisi
02-03-2004, 11:17
once the post would have been enough ;)

but that really pisses me off.

did you test other 54 MBit chipsets? i expect you dont :(

i tried to limit the speed, that worked but i had no data again.

Antiloop
02-03-2004, 11:49
Originally posted by Wisi
once the post would have been enough ;)

but that really pisses me off.

did you test other 54 MBit chipsets? i expect you dont :(

i tried to limit the speed, that worked but i had no data again.

nope, i have only antique 11b cards (prisms too, they all worked with no problems)

for the rest I only own a Asus WL100g (broadcom 11g) and a Asus WL120 (broadcom 11b) and 1 PrismGT minipci thing (ISL3880IK chip) BUT i did not have the chance to test it at other accesspoints so i'm not even sure the card works

frankvh
05-03-2004, 20:18
Hello,

I am looking at getting two 500g's to create a wireless bridge. That's all they need to do; no other devices on the wireless network. (Connecting two rooms in my house, instead of a length of CAT5 cable which is difficult to pull through the walls. Neither unit will be used as a typical access point. )

My only concern is security. Does anyone know if WPA will actually work when the two 500g's are configured for the wireless bridge? Or am I going to be limited to using WEP?

Thanks!

Frank.

hynek
08-03-2004, 09:55
Hi!

Does anybody have any experience with the WDS feature of WL-500g?

How much does the throughput fall in general when having a WDS network?

Are there any special requirements on clients connecting to an AP running in WDS mode? Will any 802.11g/b compliant client connect succesfully or do I need a client with the same chipset?

Thanks,
hynek

Wisi
11-03-2004, 20:39
i have 2 asus wl-500g running in hybrid mode

but didnt test the performance

for my other experiences watch my new topic soon...

uidas
24-03-2004, 21:57
Hello. I have configured wl-500g as AP-bridge with the three lastest customised firmwares but I can't enable STP with brctl.

STP is always disabled.

somebody knows if it is possible to enable it ?

I'm testing 5 wl-500g with WDS and it comes fool. Connected all to all. So, I want to enable STP to avoid broadcast storms.

Thanks in advance,
uidas

Wisi
02-04-2004, 12:04
i found the problem

use the key instead of the passphrase and all is working correct

Krocus
20-04-2004, 19:51
Hello there,

I need a little more help on this one:

I've got one WL-500g in "Wireless Home Gateway"-mode connected to the internet via DSL and another one running in "Access Point"-mode connecting several client pcs together and providing internet access via the first router.

Everything works fine until I switch both 500g to "Authentication Method" = WPA-PSK with "Encryption" = TKIP/AES: my wireless notebook logs on to both 500g without any problems but bridging stops working. No more data is sent from one 500g to the other.

Any helpful ideas here (s.picture for details)? Both configurations are identical except for different SSIDs and the MAC-addresses.

Thanks a lot

Krocus

P.S.: Firmware is 1.7.5.6

Krocus
20-04-2004, 19:53
Here's the picture spoken of above...

pipos
20-04-2004, 20:44
I have the same problem with 1.7.5.6-1 custom by OLEG, and with 1.7.5.6-1-removed wan speed

WEP 64,128 works fine

Wisi
20-04-2004, 22:57
already posted this some times before

have the same problem

Krocus
24-04-2004, 18:21
Hello again,

nobody an answer to that one?

Okay, the other way around: Anybody out there, who got a similar setup up and running?

Thanks in advance

Krocus

P.S.: 1.7.5.6-2 changes nothing on that subject. (testet: 1.7.5.6, 1.7.5.6-2)

Wisi
24-04-2004, 18:52
with 1.6.x it wasn workin, too.
i tested this ones... because i had the 2 wl-500g some times before 1.7.6.5

Krocus
02-05-2004, 13:08
Hello there,

I called the Asus "support" hotline a few days ago. Nobody there's ever heard about "my" problem. They weren't able to provide a solution by phone. So I left my email address and they promised me to send me an answer.

Nothing happend so far...

Anybody else tried the hotline?

Krocus

Wisi
02-05-2004, 14:01
yeah, tried for the aol problem, and the german guy told me he is in contact with taiwan for that problem, but nothing happened since this point. will write an email to him the next days to see if there is already a better solution because not all things were workin with the solution oleg made for me

but back to the topic, i still didnt get it workin, so a solution is still needed
tried other passwords, same problem
can login in everyone of the two wl-500g with notebook without problems and without changing profile on notebook, but the wl-500g dont connect to each other. if i set the configuration back to 128 bit wep wds is running instantly

rodace
25-05-2004, 12:25
Dear All,

I have one WL500g ap/router and 2 pcs. WL330g pocket ap's.
The WL500g is connected to the Internet, it's possible to connect via WLAN notebook to the internet - everything ok. But the coverage of the WL500g is to less. So I have decided to take two WL330g to extend the range.
In my opinion I have to switch the WL500g in Hybrid mode, and have to switch on WDS at the WL330g's. I have entered the WL500g's MAC into the WL330g's.
Now, it should be possible to surf via the WL330g, or not?
In my case not, I only be able to surf via the 500g, it is possible to connect to thw Wl330g's but, they have no internet connection.

What SSID sould be entered in the WL330g's?
What channel should be taken, the same, or another?

Who has got experience whith WDS?

Please help to solve my problem
BR
Rupert

pipos
25-05-2004, 12:46
I have WL-500g x2 with WDS enabled,

for my purpose i use WDS inly mode, and in bridge list booth of WL-500g has MAC adress of other WL -500g
the SSID setting is the same, but i thikk that it can be different.
you can try to set "allow anonymous: in WDS setting, and enter MAC addr of WL330g into WL 500g WDS setup

albi
29-05-2004, 01:23
I have one WL500g ap/router and 2 pcs. WL330g pocket ap's.
The WL500g is connected to the Internet, it's possible to connect via WLAN notebook to the internet - everything ok. But the coverage of the WL500g is to less. So I have decided to take two WL330g to extend the range.
In my opinion I have to switch the WL500g in Hybrid mode, and have to switch on WDS at the WL330g's. I have entered the WL500g's MAC into the WL330g's.


Insert Mac of WL330 into Wl500 too. Activate Hybrid Mode at all AP's. Set fixed ips to all APs in same range. Give every AP a different SSID. Then it should work.
Do you connect both wl330 to wl500? Or do your connect them in a row. If second, please inform it it runs stable. I use wl330 - wl500 - wl330 in a row and it is very unstable, but two in a row work fine.


ALBI...

Aldert1
18-07-2004, 13:26
Hi all,

I've setup my WL500g and WL300g to do WDS with eachother (hybrid mode, 128 bit WEP) but it seems rather slow, average connection speed is around 200 kbyte/second when I send something over the WDS link.

The WL300g is connected to my xbox, and the WL500g is connected to my network.
When I connect directly to the wl300g with my laptop and upload something to the xbox, speed is fine (2 mbyte/second), so the problem is between the WL500g and WL300g.

Distance is no problem, I've even placed them a few metres apart and still I get slow transferspeeds. I've tried setting one in WDS only or both WDS only and the transferspeed doesn't change. I've also tried fixing the data rate to 54 mbit, but no difference. Has anyone experienced something similar?

Aldert

Technik
18-07-2004, 21:25
The transfer speed is quite OK as the connection speed is limited to 2mbit/s in WDS mode.

Aldert1
18-07-2004, 21:38
The transfer speed is quite OK as the connection speed is limited to 2mbit/s in WDS mode.

hmm I did not know that, thanks. There's no workaround for that? perhaps putting the WL300g in client mode or something?

Technik
18-07-2004, 22:14
Well, AFAIK the only solution is to avoid using WDS. I don't know WL-300g so I am not sure if it's possible to turn it into Client mode. Perhaps it could be possible. WL-500g can work in Client mode for sure without any problem.

corus
26-07-2004, 22:32
I'm afraid I'll not be able to help with speeding up, but I don't know of any build in limitation of WDS. Only because everything is going going up and down, a lot of bandwith is used for the protocol.

http://www.pafree.net/media/TB-046.pdf

http://www.tomsnetworking.com/FAQ-16-Wireless+Networking-0.php

will help you in understanding WDS and maybe also some settings?

http://www.tomsnetworking.com/Sections-article78-page1.php

even has something about the WL300G in WDS with higher transfer rates.

Good luck.

Aldert1
29-07-2004, 20:17
I've tried the new 1.8.1.3 firmware on my asus wl300g, with exact the same settings, and now it works at normal speeds (I can get up to 2 mbyte/second).
I could not get the ethernet bridge option to work though, but I don't need it anyway.

smallkeung
25-08-2004, 05:51
Do anyone know that the Wl500g wds can work with other router?
and the wl330g is trustable?

In my mind, the WL500G is a buggy router. Although I like Asus products, this router it's really make me disappointed.
I look all the wan port die in this site. Do anyone know that the problem come from?

My Thinking are the following:
It's a buggy hardware, whatever Asus programmer do in the firmware, the bug still can't slove.

The wan port die issue come from the cpu power too weak. (i heard from some other opinions, the BT makes the router die, it's come from the weak cpu).

It can be fixed in the firmware, we only need to wait the asus support.

grom
25-08-2004, 16:41
I have the wl500g working in wds with a Sitecom wl-122 as router, works perfectly for me. always and everywere 54mbit/s (in and arround my house that is ;) ).

FredPook
09-09-2004, 17:23
Reading this thread, it looks like WDS is actually on the wl-330g. The product specs only talk about WDS support. Can anyone please confirm that WDS is alive and working on the wl-330G that is the G version 54mb, i know it works on the wl-330.

Are there specs known about the 330G, like how many mHz is the ARM processor, how much flash and memory and what OS?

And maybe chupa.nl could start a WL-330 and a WL-330G forum topic?

Viper_Rus
04-10-2004, 21:57
Not working WDS in WPA mode with Asus WL-500g (1.8.1.9) and Asus WL-300g (1.8.1.9)

In Description list of new firmware (1.8.1.7) writing:
14. Add: WPA-PSK for WDS

Styno
04-10-2004, 22:03
So?

Whats your question or your answer?

Viper_Rus
04-10-2004, 22:10
question.

Anybody it's work? (WDS in WPA)

Antiloop
04-10-2004, 23:37
question.

Anybody it's work? (WDS in WPA)

yes

running 1.8.1.7 pre custom with WDS and WPA-PSK

i'm now typing this over my WDS 'network' as i have disconnected the wan cable from the second WL500g

jbrbv
24-10-2004, 18:17
I want to setup a Wireless LAN test environment in a factory hall as an addition to the existing wired network. I'm familiar with the WL-500G but do not know if this is the rights one to start with. Linksys units do not support WPA in a WDS configuration. If possible i want to use 802.11g and WPA and start with 3 units.
I"m thinking about to connect the first unit to the wired network and have the other two connected by WDS.
Which unit should i use and how do i setup this configuration?
Thanks

Antiloop
24-10-2004, 19:26
have no idea what you exactly want to do

but use firmware 1.8.1.7-2 at all 3 units
and turn them into WDS with WPA turned on

be sure that every AP has the same SSID/WPA-KEY

should work (tested it here once..)

jbrbv
25-10-2004, 00:44
I want to create a wireless network in a large hall that uses roaming, WPA and the 802.11G (54 Mbps) standard.
I want to connect only one access point (or router) to the wired network.

What equipment do i need to use, the WL-300G or other ASUS WLAN products or a mix of products.
I want to start with three access points.

The other questions are - of course - how to setup this?

i've posted this question here, under the WL-500g forum, because i could not find an "overall" Q&A forum with Q&A of all the ASUS WLAN products.

Antiloop
25-10-2004, 01:08
i have no experience with wl300g, also because of the difference in price I would never buy 1 of those

just as I said you can configure them (use Hybrid instead of WDS)

just turn off dhcp on the others which are not connected by cable

and whoila it's working

brubber
25-10-2004, 01:22
i have no experience with wl300g, also because of the difference in price I would never buy 1 of those

just as I said you can configure them (use Hybrid instead of WDS)

just turn off dhcp on the others which are not connected by cable

and whoila it's workingYeah, or search the forum for WDS + LAN and you will find this thread; http://wl500g.info/showthread.php?t=964&highlight=wds+lan+ap that may be very helpful also

jbrbv
04-11-2004, 00:00
Got two WL-500G's working with WPA-PSK and AES+TKIP.
Will try the third soon and the workings of both the encryptions.

Antiloop
04-11-2004, 00:24
Got two WL-500G's working with WPA-PSK and AES+TKIP.
Will try the third soon and the workings of both the encryptions.
which firmware(s) are you using?
and i suppose it is in WDS mode ?

jbrbv
04-11-2004, 00:39
which firmware(s) are you using?
and i suppose it is in WDS mode ?

Yes it is in WDS mode (Hybrid) and i'm using now the Firmware 1.8.1.7-2a on both AP's.
Tried with a mix of 1.8.1.7-2a and 9.8.2.1, but that did not work.
Going to try with 1.8.2.4 on both AP's and then couple the third WL-500G.

jbrbv
06-11-2004, 14:26
Going to try with 1.8.2.4 on both AP's and then couple the third WL-500G.

Well the fw 1.8.2.4 does not work to setup a WDS.
Back to 1.8.1.7-2a and it's working again.

Adding the third WL-500g (with the same FW and same settings - except IP-address - and all three in the remote bridge list; AP mode = Hybrid) disturbs the correct working of the WDS. Many ping time-outs, cannot open the web page of the wireless points only the wired AP, etc.
The AP's are placed in a triangle and all three have contact with each other.
Can this be the problem? Are they to close to each other?
How can i solve this?

romeus
14-11-2004, 11:35
Hi,

Before I had come across the WL-500G, I was considering two modified WRT54g for the same purpose, but it seems as though the feature set on the 500g is far superior, not to mention better speed and range.

Now, I'm considering purchasing two WL-500G to use for WDS to transparently bridge two ethernet networks that are in two appartments about 150meters (500feet) apart, and I would ideally like to get 10mbit/s or more. I am willing to use special antenna for this purpose. I am wondering what kind of speeds people have been getting from the WL-500G in WDS mode. Are there any advantages of not using hybrid mode? Also how reliable is the WDS connection? Any other information related to this is much appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

Romeus

Wisi
15-11-2004, 12:23
wds is reliable, i am using it in a bureau. speed is at least 2 Mbit (thats what i have in mind), had never made speed checks so sorry about that.

only problem i have is that i dont get any connection between 2x wl-500g in wpa mode. wds with wep is workin but not with wpa

maybe someone else has wds with wpa running, he could give me a hint

Antiloop
15-11-2004, 13:38
wds is reliable, i am using it in a bureau. speed is at least 2 Mbit (thats what i have in mind), had never made speed checks so sorry about that.

only problem i have is that i dont get any connection between 2x wl-500g in wpa mode. wds with wep is workin but not with wpa

maybe someone else has wds with wpa running, he could give me a hint
yes use custom 1.8.1.7-2a or 1.8.1.7-3 should fit as welll

Styno
15-11-2004, 15:24
yes use custom 1.8.1.7-2a or 1.8.1.7-3 should fit as welll
:eek:
New custom firmware from Oleg coming up? The CR3 version of 1.8.17 isn't out yet....

jbrbv
15-11-2004, 23:22
wds is reliable, i am using it in a bureau. speed is at least 2 Mbit (thats what i have in mind), had never made speed checks so sorry about that.

only problem i have is that i dont get any connection between 2x wl-500g in wpa mode. wds with wep is workin but not with wpa

maybe someone else has wds with wpa running, he could give me a hint
I've got three WL-500G's in WDS mode with WPA-PSK/TKIP+AES running. Use the 1.8.1.7-2a firmware.

kjetil
28-11-2004, 20:05
Hello.

I have upgraded to 1.8.1.7-3 on both my Asus.

When I reboot Asus no1 it connects to WDS and everything works fine.

Every night I have configured my Asus to disable the radio (it's placed under the bed to my daugther, so I don't want to expose her to wireless signals when she's sleeping). The next morning the radio is enabled automatic, but not it don't connect to Asus no2.

Have anyone got the same problem?
Or solution?

kjetil

Antiloop
28-11-2004, 21:22
Hello.

I have upgraded to 1.8.1.7-3 on both my Asus.

When I reboot Asus no1 it connects to WDS and everything works fine.

Every night I have configured my Asus to disable the radio (it's placed under the bed to my daugther, so I don't want to expose her to wireless signals when she's sleeping). The next morning the radio is enabled automatic, but not it don't connect to Asus no2.

Have anyone got the same problem?
Or solution?

kjetil

reboot device instead of enabling..

kjetil
01-12-2004, 18:00
well, then I need a automatic reboot at 05:30 every day.
Can I input this into a script or firmware?

Styno
01-12-2004, 22:10
http://wl500g.info/showthread.php?t=1058

tonia
03-12-2004, 13:19
I've got three WL-500G's in WDS mode with WPA-PSK/TKIP+AES running. Use the 1.8.1.7-2a firmware.

Which settings are you using in the "Wireless" - "Advanced -menu"?

I have small problem, laptop will only connect wireless to the 2ndWL500g, not to the masterWL500g; i.e it connects but disconnects after 20 secs.

gwl
07-12-2004, 16:57
Hello,
I've just bought a WL-500g (btw, it's great!!! :)
After reading this forum, I was able to use it in client mode, and configured it to connect to a remote AP... Very cool...

So my question is: Is it possible to configure this router to act as a bidireccional repeater (WDS?). This way, I could connect to the Asus with a wireless card, and all packets would be forwarded to the remote AP.
(btw, the remote AP is a 3Com)

(I'm still a bit lost in the web interface, so any help would be perfect...)

thanks.

Styno
07-12-2004, 17:00
Well, WDS is explained in the users manual, so yes that might be possible if the WDS solution of the Asus and 3Com router are compatible.

Also, if you type WDS in the search, you will find some info about it on this forum.

:)

gwl
07-12-2004, 17:09
This is what I did in the Web Interface (and it didn't work...):

--------------------------------------
in: Wireless - Interface
set SSID and channel, same as the remote AP

in: Wireless - Bridge
APmode: Hybrid
Remote Bridge List: XXXXXXXXXXXX (mac of remote address)

in: Wireless - Advanced
Extended Mode: "AP or WDS"
---------------------------------------

What else needs to be done?
How can I confirm that the wl500g is comunicating with the remote AP?

Thanks...

Antiloop
08-12-2004, 01:35
This is what I did in the Web Interface (and it didn't work...):

--------------------------------------
in: Wireless - Interface
set SSID and channel, same as the remote AP

in: Wireless - Bridge
APmode: Hybrid
Remote Bridge List: XXXXXXXXXXXX (mac of remote address)

in: Wireless - Advanced
Extended Mode: "AP or WDS"
---------------------------------------

What else needs to be done?
How can I confirm that the wl500g is comunicating with the remote AP?

Thanks...

you have to do the same at the remote AP, if the remote AP does NOT support WDS or can't be set into WDS or HYBRID mode you will not be able to use WDS.

tonia
08-12-2004, 10:58
finally problem solved.

Had to disable virtual server! It obviously makes wlan fall out.

Using custom 1.8.1.7-2a, WPA-PSK/TKIP

michael
21-12-2004, 22:59
have no idea what you exactly want to do

but use firmware 1.8.1.7-2 at all 3 units
and turn them into WDS with WPA turned on

be sure that every AP has the same SSID/WPA-KEY

should work (tested it here once..)

I'm trying to get WDS on two units running with WPA-PSK - WEP is no problems but like others (Wisi) I cant get WDS running with WPA-PSK - can you please list your config in a bit more detail? I've tried all the options of power on/off and using the same/different SSID's but nothing works.....

Antiloop
05-01-2005, 02:25
and perhaps already known.. WDS is broken again

using WDS with WPA-PSK TKIP+AES (which worked fine in 1817)

I have to test further on WEP, TKIP seperated and AES seperated..

Oleg
05-01-2005, 10:38
yes, looks like this. But I've already fixed radius, so probably wds is also fixable. Please try wds with WEP only and if it works, than I could try adjusting some shit in this code (I'm already had an idea).

Antiloop
05-01-2005, 20:56
WDS using WEP 128bit works fine as expected..

thortyboy
24-01-2005, 06:01
I currently own a WL-500g and I was thinking about buying a Belkin F5D7230-4 because I wanted to see how different these two products are. After evaluating the 7230, I would like to put it to good use. Has anyone tried to bridge the Belkin F5D7230-4 and the Asus WL-500g products together using the WDS function? Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

WlanMan
24-01-2005, 07:56
Hi

WDS is only guranteed to work between Asus devices, i think other devices with boradcom chipsets like linksys could work also, but you have to try it. Dont know about the Belkin, is it the one with USB2.0 Ports ??

Greets

thortyboy
24-01-2005, 18:30
Nope, I don't believe this version has any USB ports.

http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Merchant_Id=&Section_Id=201522&pcount=&Product_Id=136493

Thanks for the reply. If anyone else has had experience with it, it would be greatly appreciated.

kiboko
25-01-2005, 01:17
Hi,
yesterday I bridged an smc2804 to asus, and it works very good :D. I have no experiences with belkin yet ;)

Jean-Fabrice
28-01-2005, 00:51
I've read a few post about WDS and bridge connection with asus but I have to admit that I'm really lost :((

I have a wl500 (running 1.8.1.7-CR3) upstairs connected to the Internet through an wired adsl modem. This wl500 serves a wired network with one desktop and a wireless network with two laptop and one media center desktop downstairs with a private DHCP class C network (192.168.0.x)

As I just got a wl-hdd (upgraded to 1.2.3.0) today and since the wireless network downstairs is not very good (Windows wifi systray icons says 18/24Mbps), I was thinking installing my wl-hdd as a wifi repeater downstairs, to get the max power downstairs either with the desktop or the laptop

I've tried to bridge wl-hdd and wl500 together with no results. Here is the configuration I've made :
- Same SSID on both wl-hdd and wl500
- Same WPA-PSK TKIP/AES Key
- Same channel
- Add MAC of wl-hdd in wl500 bridge list and vice-versa
- add mac of wl-hdd in wl500 'allow mac list' and vice versa
- disable dhcp on wl-hdd
- set a fixed IP in my C class network on wl-hdd, with wl500g as the gateway
-disable client mode on wl-hdd and set to not become an AP

and the result is that all downstairs boxes still connect to the wl500g and are unable to ping wl-hdd

What's wrong doctor ?

chupra
28-01-2005, 13:16
Hi,
I think you should set the wl-hdd AP to true. Also, it is not required for both devices to have the same SSID (so you can track to which AP (wl500g or wl-hdd) your clients actually attach to).

Does this cure the problem patient? :)

Antiloop
28-01-2005, 13:19
please try first the WL-HDD-1.8.1.9CRx firmware
perhaps WDS is still broken in wl-hdd firmware, try to use WEP that should confirm it as well

nekrus
31-01-2005, 19:28
Okay, here is our set up.

WL-500G (#1) connected to a fixed IP connection, and connected to a Comp VIA 10/100 LAN cable. Everything working fine here so far as the wired comp has no problems connecting to the internet. Set it Hybrid, with DHCP enabled, channel 1, MAC of WL-500G (#2) punched in, etc.

WL-500G (#2) set with the same SSID as #1, DHCP disabled, MAC of #1 punched in, Allow anonymous Connections = Yes, Connect to APs in Remote Bridge List = Yes, etc. The IP for the router is currently set as the same, but I have tried different ones for each unit and still #2 won't redristribute the signal and internet connection from #1. If anybody has a step by step FAQ or info on how exactly to set up WDS for these units I would greatly appreciate it. Ultimately what we want is for #1 to house the internet connection, share it wirelessly and via wired connections, and for #2 to act as a repeater for #1 wirelessly, wired doesn't matter on #2 for us. Thanks for any help you give me. I've searched through the ASUS pages and this forum and tried a variety of things over two weeks and still haven't found a stable way for these systems to work. Thanks again for any help you might give. If you need any more information, ask and I'll tell you. Thanks.

Antiloop
31-01-2005, 20:13
read the FAQ and you will find the answer

nekrus
01-02-2005, 21:51
Thanks for responding. I have read over the FAQs and the help forum on the Asus web page and still come up with nothing. I have reset both routers and reconfigured them a few times over, but still with no stable luck. Is there anybody who might have a few tips for a beginner in this area, like which mistakes are made most commonly, etc? If need be I can post the detailed specs of our setup. Thanks.

Oleg
01-02-2005, 22:07
Hint: do not use 1.9.x.x firmwares (stock and custom) if you want to make WPA enabled WDS. Check known bugs section in the FAQ.

nekrus
07-02-2005, 18:55
Is there a link for the Known Problems FAQ? Thanks.

nekrus
07-02-2005, 19:02
Never mind, found the FAQ. Thanks. :)

Tbone
15-02-2005, 22:38
Hello there,

I need a little more help on this one:

Krocus

P.S.: Firmware is 1.7.5.6


I think you configured it right... its a bug in the FW(s).
I tried the official Asus releases and each of Chupa`s latest
The only way I can hook up the boxes is with WDS/WEP128
I tried client mode with WPA TKIP and AES and it wouldnt connect either.

v1.7.5.9 rc5 is the one that works best with WDS and WEP128 with me. I also tried v1.8.1.7 rc3 and the latest v1927 rc3c.

I also tried to hook up the WL500g as client to a Linksys WAP54g and this also didn`t work.


:eek:

Antiloop
16-02-2005, 00:08
I think you configured it right... its a bug in the FW(s).
I tried the official Asus releases and each of Chupa`s latest
The only way I can hook up the boxes is with WDS/WEP128
I tried client mode with WPA TKIP and AES and it wouldnt connect either.

v1.7.5.9 rc5 is the one that works best with WDS and WEP128 with me. I also tried v1.8.1.7 rc3 and the latest v1927 rc3c.

I also tried to hook up the WL500g as client to a Linksys WAP54g and this also didn`t work.


:eek:
well this topic is months old already, please don't kick them up

WDS with WPA-PSK works when using 1.8.1.7 custom firmware (look at faq)

Tbone
16-02-2005, 01:35
well this topic is months old already, please don't kick them up

WDS with WPA-PSK works when using 1.8.1.7 custom firmware (look at faq)

sorry... forgot to check the date of this item :o

Viper_Jaro
16-02-2005, 03:15
:confused: :confused: :confused: Hi i have buyed two Asus WL500g DELUXE. I have tryied it to get in wds mod but it worked not. I dont now why. When the one is like ethernet bridge it work fine. Can me somebody help ?? I have tryied default firmware then olegs 1.9.2.7-3c . And nothing. The Air led is still blinking so i thing it comunicate but i can no ping the second device. Im usibg Shared WEPkey 64bit decimal. :confused: :confused: :confused:

Stevio
26-02-2005, 23:43
Well none of the firmwares works for me. With WEP 128bit there is no problem. Even with the 1.8.1.7-3 customised firmware WDS wont work with WPA-PSK. Hope someone knows a solution or have a working setup.

I also tried the faq. Dont know which settings are used in the faq. But WDS works with WEB 128. So changing this in WPA-PSK and disable WEB should work, but i wont :'(

bogdanv
14-03-2005, 09:35
Yesterday I found information about this. Apparently the WDS standard does not support WPA encryption and we're stuck with WEP. Something to do with sharing certificates not supported on access points.

Here is the link to this info: http://www.tomsnetworking.com/Sections-article78.php

It also has a link to a PDF file which explains WDS in more detail.

Hope thi helps,
Bogdan

GiaN
14-03-2005, 12:30
Yes I can confirm that the WDS standard is restricted to using WEP. Once you understand WEP it is not that complicated.

Also it seems true that you will lose 50% of the wireless transfer speed since both incomming and outgoing packets will pass thru the WDS as WiFi.

Hence, I strongly suggest to all people that want to expand the range of a wireless network to use a plain old UTP cable between the Gateway or a Broadband Modem and your remote Wireless Access points.

tonia
17-03-2005, 23:54
I can confirm that using 1.8.1.7-2a there is NO problem with WDS and WPA-PSK/TKIP!!!

(using same SSID on both 500g!)

El Vino
18-03-2005, 12:22
Hi,
i have experienced the same problem during the setup of my 2 WL500g's (both running newest 1.9.2.7-4 firmware). It is probably an error in the firmware but i am not sure, it can be an error in my setup.

The setup is following:
DSL modem -> WL500g (HG mode, WPA/AES, WDS only, advanced mode "AP or WDS"), other WL500g (AP mode, WPA/AES, Hybrid mode, advanced mode "Ethernet bridge", running DHCP only). Both are using same SSID, of course.

Is it generally possible to setup them with WDS using WPA/AES or not ?

Regards, El Vino

Oleg
18-03-2005, 12:28
Please check Known Bugs Section in the FAQ.

El Vino
18-03-2005, 12:39
"9. WDS using WPA encryption does not function. No connection is established.
Affected versions: all stock firmwares except firmware 1.8.1.7"

Now, which one 1.8.1.7 is meant here ? custom ? which build number ?

:confused:

Oleg
18-03-2005, 13:26
This bug list if for stocks firmwares only. So, every firmware based on the 1.8.1.7 should work, including stock 1.8.1.7 and custom 1.8.1.7-x.

El Vino
19-03-2005, 00:35
Yeah, finally, it works !
I set it up with custom firmware 1.8.1.7-3 on BOTH wl500g's.
Thank you very much Oleg, you did a great job ! :cool:

Regards, El Vino

gerd
25-03-2005, 17:39
Hi !
i was running 2 WRT54G (with openwrt) and the wl-hdd in wds mode (aka hybrid on asus) now i changed firmware on wl-hdd because i need nfs server stuff for my sat receiver. but now the wl-hdd does not connect to the other one i set channel WEP and ssid the same like on wrt (in wrt the mac address is still in) but nothing....
any hints ?
Ciao Gerd

Medalha
28-03-2005, 12:14
Hello all

I need to establish a WDS link between buildings to interconnect two Ethernet LANs. I have two WL500G successfuly connected in WDS mode, so this part of the equation has already been solved.

It would be convenient to organize the LANs as two segments; one from, say, 192.168.0.1 to 192.168.0.127 and the other from 192.168.0.129 to 192.168.0.255. Does anyone here have some experience at doing this? How should the 500G's be configured, with regard to routes? Should I connect the WAN port on each side to the respective wired segment or use just the LAN ports? Must I use only one LAN segment for both sides? This would be inconvenient, since each side has its own Internet access via ADSL routers and I want to avoid confusions with DHCP etc.

Thank you for your help.

Medalha
28-03-2005, 23:12
I suppose I commited a error/omission in my previous message: I said "two segments" but perhaps I should have said "two subnets" with network mask 255.255.255.128

Does this help to understand my question?

Thank you!

phedny
29-03-2005, 18:41
Best way to do this is remove the WLAN interface from the bridge, setup a small segment for it and adding static routes. This cannot be done from the web interface AFAIK, but when logging in with telnet/ssh, you can issue these commands. You can test things and if it works, you can store them in the post-boot file to make the WL-500g load them on startup.

On box 1:

brctl delif br0 wds0.49153
ifconfig br0 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.128
ifconfig wds0.49153 172.16.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.252
route add -net 192.168.0.128/25 gw 172.16.0.2

On box 2:

brctl delif br0 wds0.49153
ifconfig br0 192.168.0.129 netmask 255.255.255.128
ifconfig wds0.49153 172.16.0.2 netmask 255.255.255.252
route add -net 192.168.0.0/25 gw 172.16.0.1

Basically what happens:
- Break the WLAN apart from the LAN
- Set the LAN (br0) IP-address, (line 2 may be removed if you set this IP in the web interface)
- Set IP address on WDS interface
- Add route to other network via WDS to other WL-500g box

Also note the WDS might have a different name, but on my three WL-500g boxes the first WDS link has this name (the second WDS link has wds0.49154), but I don't know where these numbers come from and if they're the same allways. Looking up with ifconfig gives you a truncated name (missing last digit), but you may try "ip link" to find the correct name.

Medalha
30-03-2005, 01:12
I must thank you for the attention you gave to my question!

I will surelly try the steps you wrote and I will report back later.

Thank you again :)

mr.destroyer
31-03-2005, 15:28
hello i have setup 2 WL500G

1 - Primary with Internet Connection. (Should be host)

2 - Slave with connection to the Primary...

i've added both of there MACs in connection list

but it seems that they fight over which one to be HOST

how to setup ??

please ...

i've looked through the manual an it says nothing about it...

Medalha
04-04-2005, 00:28
I tried the steps you indicate but the thing doesn't work. It seems the devices don't route between the eth0 and wds0.49153 interfaces. I only obtain a connection when both 500Gs are on the same subnet. Otherwise, the response to a ping is always the same: "Destination net unreachable".

I suppose I need to use two subnets because each one of the 2 LANs I want to interconnect has its own Internet access via a ADSL modem router wich also functions as a DHCP server. I don't want the computers from one LAN to access the ADSL router on the other building and much less do I want them to see two DHCP servers on the network...

Your approach seems correct to me but something is wrong with the routing function.

Thank you again!

Weeto
05-04-2005, 11:03
I have 2 wl500g in WDS mode using WPA-PSK encription.... I tested them 1 meter appart from each other and i got only 1,4MByte/s.
Now they are 250m appart from each other but with two 24dbi antenna's pointed directly at each other. I get now only about 1MByte/s.
My question to the proffesionals in here is, do I have to be satisfied with this or is it possible to get atleast 2-2,5MByte/s (as this is the max net throughput of 54g)??

i'm using custom firmware 1.8.1.7-3 from OLEG.