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hggomes
13-05-2009, 14:27
This is the unreleased new router from ASUS, RT-N16 will arrive market in a few months.

Here the specs:

CPU: Broadcom BCM4718 533MHZ (best from class)
RAM: 128MB (2x 64MB)
ROM: 32MB
ETH: 4x GIGABIT (LAN) 1x GIGABIT (WAN)
USB Ports: 2
WLAN: Dual Radio N

I know two persons who will be very happy with this :)

hggomes
13-05-2009, 14:29
More pictures:

Serge_K
13-05-2009, 14:55
RAM: 64MB (2x 32MB)
Are you sure? There should be more RAM.
http://www.computex.biz/asustek/default.aspx?PageType=ProductDetail&pdt_id=24801&pcode=

hggomes
13-05-2009, 15:03
Are you sure? There should be more RAM.
http://www.computex.biz/asustek/default.aspx?PageType=ProductDetail&pdt_id=24801&pcode=

You're right, my mistake. Corrected ;)

Serge_K
13-05-2009, 15:10
You're right, my mistake. Corrected ;)

Now I`m happy too.:) Thanks for pictures!

hggomes
13-05-2009, 15:16
Yeah, we all are ;) No problem. This is a really powerful router, im sure OLEG FW will come soon ;)

rod178
13-05-2009, 16:22
Looks like an upgrade of a WL-500W.
- same old case :eek:
+ lots of RAM :)
+ fast cpu :)
+ GigaBit LAN :) :)


Questions, if anyone can answer:
1) Does this router support 5GHz N wireless?
2) Can it transmitt on two wireless channels concurrently ie like WRT610N?
3) Does it have a JTAG port? Omission would be disappointing!!!
4) Are the aerials detachable?

hggomes
13-05-2009, 17:14
Looks like an upgrade of a WL-500W.
- same old case :eek:
+ lots of RAM :)
+ fast cpu :)
+ GigaBit LAN :) :)


Questions, if anyone can answer:
1) Does this router support 5GHz N wireless?
2) Can it transmitt on two wireless channels concurrently ie like WRT610N?
3) Does it have a JTAG port? Omission would be disappointing!!!
4) Are the aerials detachable?


1. Yes.
2. Yes.

Simultaneous dual-band operation provides data rates of up to 300 Mbps in both the 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz bands
Worldwide DFS certification to provide 27 channels in the 5 GHz band

3. Yes.
4. Yes.

wpte
14-05-2009, 15:47
OH YES!:cool:
me like this thing a lot!

I mean... finally PROPER draft N wireless and a heatsink on the CPU so it doesn't need to be underclocked:D
the additional ram is great as well...
I bet they made it especially for us:)

I think however that they only used a faster cpu to support better dataflow from the wlan card, since the 300mhz cpu in the wl-500w is a bottleneck now and then.

I might be buying this thing, even without oleg support (so far).

Thanks asus for listening to the real fans for a time :)

rod178
14-05-2009, 16:44
It's currently selling in China for Y1700, which is <USD280, although I suppose the markup will be higher outside the PRC.

By the time I retire my WL-500W the price will be much lower I hope. :cool:

The biggest advantage is the inclusion of a JTAG port.
Gigbit LAN and 5GHz WLAN is also bout time.

wpte
14-05-2009, 17:14
It's currently selling in China for Y1700, which is <USD280, although I suppose the markup will be higher outside the PRC.

280$... that is like 100 euro right:p

ah well.. after the first 2 months the price usually also makes a hughe drop:)
for now I guess the price will be around the 200 euro, the same price the wl-500w kicked off... and now it's like 90 euro or something:p

theMIROn
14-05-2009, 21:03
A couple of months to get it available, 2-3 months to get a lower price and some unpredictable time to get it working with *wrt/some custom firmware...
Sad but true

wpte
14-05-2009, 22:55
A couple of months to get it available, 2-3 months to get a lower price and some unpredictable time to get it working with *wrt/some custom firmware...
Sad but true

Well I'm not sure if it'll take that mutch time...
I mean the architecture is the same so it will be placing some pre-compiled drivers in the source, maybe a different cross-compiler, edit a few scripts and ur done...
http://www.broadcom.com/collateral/pb/4716_4717_4718-PB03-R.pdf

or am I thinking way to easy here:p

hggomes
15-05-2009, 01:13
Well I'm not sure if it'll take that mutch time...
I mean the architecture is the same so it will be placing some pre-compiled drivers in the source, maybe a different cross-compiler, edit a few scripts and ur done...
http://www.broadcom.com/collateral/pb/4716_4717_4718-PB03-R.pdf

or am I thinking way to easy here:p

I agree ;)

theMIROn
15-05-2009, 06:11
afaik it'll be shipped with 2.6 kernel

wpte
15-05-2009, 09:59
afaik it'll be shipped with 2.6 kernel

Yes that can be quite logic since they upgraded so much hardware...
then it won't be that easy I guess;)

SMINT
15-05-2009, 15:09
looks very cool, I like it :)

al37919
15-05-2009, 21:49
Actually, we don't know which kernel will be used finally. Oleg reported that he has had an engineering sample of RT-N16 and firmwares based both on 2.4 and 2.6
http://wl500g.info/showpost.php?p=132818&postcount=528
http://wl500g.info/showpost.php?p=136257&postcount=789
At least we know for sure that asus tests 2.6, however, we can only hope that it finally chooses it...

wpte
15-05-2009, 22:50
Actually, we don't know which kernel will be used finally. Oleg reported that he has had an engineering sample of RT-N16 and firmwares based both on 2.4 and 2.6
http://wl500g.info/showpost.php?p=132818&postcount=528
http://wl500g.info/showpost.php?p=136257&postcount=789
At least we know for sure that asus tests 2.6, however, we can only hope that it finally chooses it...

good to see that oleg is still on this:)
I mean it's kinda quiet here in the english forums, while he's pretty active in the russian forum I guess.

I vote for kernel 2.6 tho:D

rod178
16-05-2009, 15:12
good to see that oleg is still on this:)
I mean it's kinda quiet here in the english forums, while he's pretty active in the russian forum I guess.

I vote for kernel 2.6 tho:D

What is the advantage of implementing the 2.6 kernel?

wpte
16-05-2009, 17:17
What is the advantage of implementing the 2.6 kernel?

well... bug fixes, better hardware support, better software support (most software these days are written for 2.6 kernel but are backwards compatible with 2.4)

the router would actually come close to a real modern pc when it comes to functionality etc.

I mean... they make new versions of the kernel for a reason;)

wpte
17-05-2009, 17:38
I think this thing is going to be cheaper...
if you google online a bit you can find some prices already! (chinese ones or something).

like this one: http://product.pchome.net/network_wireless_router_asus_rt_n16/143413.html
(loads a bit slow)
scroll down and you see "¥1595" wich comes down to around 172 Euros/233 us $

that makes it a whole lot more affordable I guess:D

wpte
23-05-2009, 23:09
taiwan excellence:
http://brandingtaiwan.org/eng/productYearly1.aspx?id=098092AB-A040
:)

hggomes
29-05-2009, 21:22
Those are the new models:

1- ASUS RT-N16
2- ASUS RT-N16 ROG (BLACK) - Maybe better specs
3- ASUS RT-N17 STORAGE ROUTER - Maybe better specs
4- ASUS D200 (MEDIA CENTER/NAS/ROUTER) - ATOM CPU
5- ASUS RT-N13U - Broadcom Low End

Pictures coming later...

wpte
30-05-2009, 14:05
2- ASUS RT-N16 ROG (BLACK) - Maybe better specs

I guess that's the special "gaming" version.
since rog = republic of gamers.

maybe it has an extra overclocking feature:p
but I guess it's just build in with the special feature for lower latency gaming or something like that.

hggomes
01-06-2009, 20:35
I guess that's the special "gaming" version.
since rog = republic of gamers.

maybe it has an extra overclocking feature:p
but I guess it's just build in with the special feature for lower latency gaming or something like that.

If it's better, better then ;)

msj33
03-06-2009, 21:46
OMG! I think I just came a bit.........

Have been waiting for ages for a more up-to-date solution on my NAS-solution!

I'm very excited to see, what's the final Results/prices would.

If somebody have it, could you please post som Benchmark test comparing to other Asus Routers. Especially on the trasfer spees from USB- Harddisk!

Sick and tired of my 2 MB/sec!

The ASUS D200 (MEDIA CENTER/NAS/ROUTER) - ATOM CPU looks very exciting!

/msj33

skelet
20-06-2009, 09:26
Good news!!!

I am wating for this solution long time. :)

Lesiuk
22-06-2009, 17:39
That looks really good ;)

wpte
23-06-2009, 22:13
RT-N16 page 186 from the asus e magazine

if you want to download the entire magazine:
http://www.asus.com/ContentPage.aspx?Content_Type=AboutASUS&Content_Id=9
but you are warned, it's slow, like usual:p

4986

Toastman
29-06-2009, 13:43
Wow.

Now this is what I call a real router, designed with a degree of future proofing. Most manufacturers are still busy churning out variations of the same old theme, whereas many people's requirements are fast becoming more demanding.

If any ASUS staff read this, please keep up the good work! I am looking forward to someone porting Tomato over to this router.

hggomes
30-06-2009, 12:46
Official Release today:


http://www.asus.com/News.aspx?N_ID=1Oof1nCVVNFyBbG1

or google it to many other sites...

pitsch
01-07-2009, 01:09
so they must have read the petition

http://wl500g.info/showthread.php?t=18991&highlight=petition

hopefully the black version will come with 4 usb slots.

wpte
07-07-2009, 12:09
I just realized this is not a dual-band router...
I guess asus never gets the entire picture right:confused:

Oyabun
10-07-2009, 15:48
Does anyone knows when this will be available in Europe?

wpte
10-07-2009, 20:37
Does anyone knows when this will be available in Europe?
Asus didn't mentioned any price or release date... so nobody knows, only asus:p

I expect them to release it after the summer holiday, and before new-year, sounds like an obvious time to bring out a new product:)

rod178
13-07-2009, 06:23
I just realized this is not a dual-band router...
I guess asus never gets the entire picture right:confused:


That kills it for me.

sudo
20-07-2009, 03:59
Says on the Broadcom spec sheet the BCM4718 only has 2 USB ports.

Unless there's another USB hub, they will be connected to the 2 external sockets.
(so no internal HDD etc. without sacrificing a port, or putting in your own hub circuitry)

wpte
21-07-2009, 01:05
Says on the Broadcom spec sheet the BCM4718 only has 2 USB ports.

Unless there's another USB hub, they will be connected to the 2 external sockets.
(so no internal HDD etc. without sacrificing a port, or putting in your own hub circuitry)

if I remember correctly, the wl500w and wl500gp also have 2 usb ports...
but it's connected to another chip which makes 4 available. A commonly used VIA chip

hggomes
21-07-2009, 19:53
http://www.broadcom.com/products/Wireless-LAN/802.11-Wireless-LAN-Solutions/BCM4718#tab=features-tab


Simultaneous dual-band operation provides data rates of up to 300 Mbps in both the 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz bands
Worldwide DFS certification to provide 27 channels in the 5 GHz band.

Weird some info that's not a dual band router, cause the chipset supports it and its exactly the same used on WRT6XX thats officially a 'dual band'.


But its confirmed it only works at 2.4GHZ.



That kills it for me.

wpte
21-07-2009, 21:15
http://www.broadcom.com/products/Wireless-LAN/802.11-Wireless-LAN-Solutions/BCM4718#tab=features-tab


RT-N16 - Simultaneous dual-band operation provides data rates of up to 300 Mbps in both the 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz bands
Worldwide DFS certification to provide 27 channels in the 5 GHz band.

Weird some info that's not a dual band router, cause the chipset supports it and its exactly the same used on WRT6XX thats officially a 'dual band'.

yeh, that's what I tought... but asus seems to think different about it:confused:
maybe they don't have an option in the firmware... and someone can unlock it:p

if it does support dual band, then asus has the entire picture right imo:D

hggomes
22-07-2009, 14:19
It's a great hardware anyway ;)



yeh, that's what I tought... but asus seems to think different about it:confused:
maybe they don't have an option in the firmware... and someone can unlock it:p

if it does support dual band, then asus has the entire picture right imo:D

rod178
24-07-2009, 07:50
It's a great hardware anyway ;)

Not if you require dual band. There is a lot of wireless congestion in my area. Sometimes I can detect up to 30 tranmitters.

I'll wait until dual band available/functional.

wpte
04-08-2009, 20:06
OK! they've released a nice page about their router:

http://www.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=WAa6AQFncrceRBEo&templete=2

I guess it'll come soon then:)

no downloads yet: ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/wireless/

wpte
20-08-2009, 22:03
no downloads yet: ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/wireless/

Well when you look on the product page: http://www.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=WAa6AQFncrceRBEo&templete=2

go to the downloads tab and select OS: "others"

you can download the source code AND the firmware already!!!!!!:D


oh btw... it's linux kernel 2.6! good stuff asus, thank you!

hggomes
22-08-2009, 03:32
Very nice ;) The only thing left is OLEG Firmware...

msj33
23-08-2009, 13:21
Anyone bought this yet?

Do you have any benchmark results on Filetransfer? Are very interested in seing USB File transfer performance.

And what about OLEG? (Is he around to comment on if firmware will be available??).

Can not seem to find the router in retail anywhere in Denmark.....maybe i'll will just have to wait in patience.

/Msj33

wpte
23-08-2009, 17:31
Anyone bought this yet?

Do you have any benchmark results on Filetransfer? Are very interested in seing USB File transfer performance.

And what about OLEG? (Is he around to comment on if firmware will be available??).

Can not seem to find the router in retail anywhere in Denmark.....maybe i'll will just have to wait in patience.

/Msj33

it is not out for sale yet!
they only put up the page and the downloads
which is a sign of this router coming out very soon;)

in fact, the dutch price compare site for pc's and stuff already made a item on it:
http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/242860/asus-rt-n16.html
no shops are added yet...:p

hggomes
24-08-2009, 03:10
Anyone bought this yet?

Do you have any benchmark results on Filetransfer? Are very interested in seing USB File transfer performance.

And what about OLEG? (Is he around to comment on if firmware will be available??).

Can not seem to find the router in retail anywhere in Denmark.....maybe i'll will just have to wait in patience.

/Msj33


USB Transfer: ~ 10MB/s

ingridseynhaeve
01-09-2009, 15:06
Hi hggomes,

Oh, You have provided here the information of ASUS router and also its specification.
If you have more details related to its features,advantages and disadvantages over the routers
currently available in the industry, send it through your post.

Thank You. :)

Antiloop
06-09-2009, 22:31
it is not out for sale yet!
they only put up the page and the downloads
which is a sign of this router coming out very soon;)

in fact, the dutch price compare site for pc's and stuff already made a item on it:
http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/242860/asus-rt-n16.html
no shops are added yet...:p

I have requested price for it, perhaps I'll hear it tomorrow
normal shipping time from asus taiwan would be around 2 weeks if I'm right

should I count you in for a RT-N16 WPTE ?

wpte
07-09-2009, 00:55
I have requested price for it, perhaps I'll hear it tomorrow
normal shipping time from asus taiwan would be around 2 weeks if I'm right

should I count you in for a RT-N16 WPTE ?

that's a good proposal, but I would first want to know a bit more about the price;)
but you're saying they probably ship it in a few days?

Antiloop
07-09-2009, 01:33
that's a good proposal, but I would first want to know a bit more about the price;)
but you're saying they probably ship it in a few days?

I have no clue when it will be shipped.. but I can even buy spareparts now :) most distri's do not even want to do that

but WL-500w sucks for one reason, and that are the attached antenna's
I need the ability to connect an outdoor antenna to it

and the WL500gP(v1) is not for sale anymore..

Petki
07-09-2009, 11:04
Hi guys,
sorry if my question is answered somewhere (link please), but what is difference between this, RT-N16 and RT-N15 router except fact that RT-N15 has no USB ports? Because i need new router (my old good 500g Deluxe went to electronic heaven :( ), i need it quickly and USB ports are not problem (1 year i didnt attached USB device), but on other side, i dont want to miss some good features from N16 (if there is any difference)

EDIT: oh, ok, i found some reviews and N15 has similar to N16 only name :) Its totally different product, unfortunatelly not so good like N16 (it not means "bad", it is just average...)

Omega
15-09-2009, 08:07
Those are the new models:

1- ASUS RT-N16
2- ASUS RT-N16 ROG (BLACK) - Maybe better specs
3- ASUS RT-N17 STORAGE ROUTER - Maybe better specs
4- ASUS D200 (MEDIA CENTER/NAS/ROUTER) - ATOM CPU
5- ASUS RT-N13U - Broadcom Low End

Pictures coming later...
Asus RT-N17 Wireless Storage Router httð://www.alldesignawards.com/asus-rt-n17-wireless-router/ (http://www.alldesignawards.com/asus-rt-n17-wireless-router/)

http://wl500g.info/attachment.php?attachmentid=9154&d=1340933969

http://wl500g.info/showthread.php?19057-Asus-RT-N16 :rolleyes:

Asus D200 Media Center/NAS/Router

http://www.nix.ru/art/pic/web_news/2009/jan/pb1231684538.jpg


ASUS D200

CPU: Intel(R) Atom N270 @ 1600MHz
RAM: 2GB DDR2(SDRAM) 533(667)MHz
ROM: 512MB Flash ROM
HDD: 2x3,5" SATA HDD 1TB
RAID: RAID 0.1 JBOD
LCD: 3,5" LCD touchscreen panel
Router: 802.11n MIMO AP Router
WiFi: 802.11n, Ralink (RT2880)
Ethernet: Realtek (RTL8111C/RTL8366SR)
I/O ports: 1xGbE WAN, 4xGbE LAN, 4xUSB, 1xDVI
ODD: Slot-in DVD-RW (HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GA10N)
Audio: 6-channel H.D. Audio, 5.1xAudio port
Video: VGA, Intel 945GME(GSE)/ICH7-M Express Chipset
LED Indicator: WLAN/LAN/Power Recovery/HDD status
Hot key: DVD Ejection, Wireless On/Off, Power button
Acoustic: Under 28db with smart fan
Dimension: 275X98X206 mm

http://wl500g.info/showthread.php?t=21039 ;)

wpte
15-09-2009, 19:42
So basicly that's just a mini-itx mobo :p
you can probably just install something like ubuntu on it I guess:)

nobody has posted anything on the RT-N16 ROG version yet:confused:

jacktheripper
17-09-2009, 08:08
First price,

http://www.4wireless.nl/a/router/asus/asus-rt-n16-wireless-n-router

rod178
21-09-2009, 07:10
Short review. Contains some screen shots. GUI looks like a big improvement over WL500 series

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/reviews/wifi-routers/351550/asus-rt-n16

Just released (preorder) prices in Australia start at A$180

lly
21-09-2009, 09:40
GUI looks like a big improvement over WL500 series
GUI is "improved" for newbies only :( It VERY slowly, most parameters can't be changed rapidly.

Previously I can tune paramers on N-page, press "Apply", tune paramers on N+1-page, press "Apply", ...., press "Finish" & reboot. In new GUI, a little amount of parameters can be changed on-the-fly, but most of them requires reboot like in old GUI, BUT there is no button "Apply", only "Finish". So, router reboots after every tuned page (GUI didn't show this, only big delay meter)!

theMIROn
21-09-2009, 10:10
GUI is "improved" for newbies only :( It VERY slowly, most parameters can't be changed rapidly.

Previously I can tune paramers on N-page, press "Apply", tune paramers on N+1-page, press "Apply", ...., press "Finish" & reboot. In new GUI, a little amount of parameters can be changed on-the-fly, but most of them requires reboot like in old GUI, BUT there is no button "Apply", only "Finish". So, router reboots after every tuned page (GUI didn't show this, only big delay meter)!

Actually, several params doesn't require reboot (firewal related), but they are too few

rod178
21-09-2009, 10:43
GUI is "improved" for newbies only :( It VERY slowly, most parameters can't be changed rapidly.
.....
So, router reboots after every tuned page (GUI didn't show this, only big delay meter)!

Is the reboot time about 20sec ie as the WL500W?

It will be 'painful' to reboot after (nearly) every page.:eek:

wpte
21-09-2009, 16:01
Is the reboot time about 20sec ie as the WL500W?

It will be 'painful' to reboot after (nearly) every page.:eek:

that's why we'll put oleg on it?:D

the QoS needs to be looked at tho I think, my experiences are slightly better with the original asus QoS than with wondershaper (since the cpu is too slow to actually optimize for my internet speed).

again, nobody mentioned dual-band in this review:confused:
does that mean it's a different chipset as told in: http://wl500g.info/showpost.php?p=145210&postcount=1 ?
or did asus just left out the dual band option:confused:

another review: http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/1273035.html

lly
22-09-2009, 08:52
that's why we'll put oleg on it?:D
We are working on it :)

wpte
22-09-2009, 10:24
We are working on it :)
I'll be happy to test everything;)
do you think there needs to be a new ipkg repository, because of the newer kernel?

theMIROn
22-09-2009, 10:26
I'll be happy to test everything;)
do you think there needs to be a new ipkg repository, because of the newer kernel?
most optware packages should work fine with 2.6 kernel, for others we have http://wl500g.googlecode.com/svn/ipkg/ already

lly
22-09-2009, 10:31
I'll be happy to test everything;)
Well, we inform you when alfa will be ready. But this will take one-two months at least.

do you think there needs to be a new ipkg repository, because of the newer kernel?
For some packages, seems to be, yes. Many syscalls was changed since optware's toolchain was built against 2.4.20. Moreover, we cannot support much packages in repository ourselves, so volunteers are welcome.

wpte
22-09-2009, 18:54
Well, we inform you when alfa will be ready. But this will take one-two months at least.

For some packages, seems to be, yes. Many syscalls was changed since optware's toolchain was built against 2.4.20. Moreover, we cannot support much packages in repository ourselves, so volunteers are welcome.

yeah well, the router isn't available here yet:)
do you test the firmware on something like qemu or something? or is it just trust that everything will go allright:p

I'll be able to compile some software now and then, as long as it compiles without too much trouble, kinda have lots of work the coming weeks from uni:(
I just need a cross compiler, I'm not sure which uclibc to use then, but I guess you'll be able to tell me:)

lly
22-09-2009, 19:33
yeah well, the router isn't available here yet:)
do you test the firmware on something like qemu or something?
Someone has real sample of RT-N16 & RT-N13U :p Thanks to ASUS!

wpte
22-09-2009, 20:23
Someone has real sample of RT-N16 & RT-N13U :p Thanks to ASUS!

haha, you lucky lucky man;)
cool from asus they actually supporting the alternative firmware community with these things:)
in the end, they are just doing a little investment in "free" development:p

wpte
04-10-2009, 17:58
AH! I might have found an official release date:
http://www.dcs-webwinkel.nl/product_info.php?products_id=215033

Wednesday 16 October 2009 according to this store... other stores say there is a wait time of 2 weeks or longer, which fits into this story.:)

Pedro83
06-10-2009, 20:44
It is 16th now... My 500gP V1 died yesterday :( so I will try to wait till 16th for RT-N16 :)

jacktheripper
07-10-2009, 08:05
It is 16th now... My 500gP V1 died yesterday :( so I will try to wait till 16th for RT-N16 :)

Look here http://www.4wireless.nl/a/router/asus/asus-rt-n16-wireless-n-router

wpte
07-10-2009, 13:08
Look here http://www.4wireless.nl/a/router/asus/asus-rt-n16-wireless-n-router

lol:p

I guess you're the owner or an employee of this store?
What about the 4 workdays delivery time? is that true or just mumbo jumbo?

maurer
07-10-2009, 16:00
it's already available in Romania...
strange...isn't it?
http://www.price.ro/preturi_asus_rt-n16_243555.htm

jacktheripper
07-10-2009, 16:34
lol:p

I guess you're the owner or an employee of this store?
What about the 4 workdays delivery time? is that true or just mumbo jumbo?

I am no employee or owner of this store. But i am, like you, interested in this product.

maurer
07-10-2009, 16:53
it's already available in Romania...
strange...isn't it?
http://www.price.ro/preturi_asus_rt-n16_243555.htm

i'm going to buy one tomorrow

hggomes
07-10-2009, 22:34
Here in Portugal is already available since the end of September, the price is 130€ Online Store and 180€ Street Stores.

skelet
07-10-2009, 22:46
RT-N16 is aviable in Moskau now! :))))

http://market.yandex.ru/search.xml?&text=RT-N16&cvredirect=1&how=rorp

Serpent
08-10-2009, 18:09
Yeah sure...
Just write here when a REAL ONE was bought!!!
Online stores are selling "the bear's skin from the wood"... :D
Comrad Maurer, please report when you have found one in Romania!

viasat
08-10-2009, 19:13
It's true ,in Romania it's in stoc 100%!Here it is an topic,where someone already got it,but returned to the shop because of some problems _http://forum.computergames.ro/86-networking-internet/520961-probleme-router-asus-rt-n16.html
Cheers

wpte
09-10-2009, 18:07
I don't get it as well... there is no store in germany, the netherlands, belgium, us or the uk that has it...
there isn't even a link on ebay, so why is it available in romania, russia and portugal?:confused:

skelet
09-10-2009, 19:12
there isn't even a link on ebay, so why is it available in romania, russia and portugal?:confused:
Hell if I know...


There are distribution problems, probably

pr0cess0r
10-10-2009, 06:48
Im a computer reseller in montreal here is an e-mail i received today!

ETA is 14 october


Introducing the ASUS RT-N16 Multi-Functional Gigabit Wireless N Router with Storage, Printer, File and Media Server
Top selling points for RT-N16
· Powerful CPU provides a high-performance throughput
· Fast wired connectivity with Gigabit transfer speed
· Support up to 300,000 sessions for extensive P2P clients.
· Most widespread application with USB2.0 port : All-in-1 printer server and FTP files sharing
· Ultra-fast and Convenient Downloads with the Revolutionary Download Master
· Supports DD-WRT with open source code and flexible firmware upgrades.


Model name: RT-N16
MSRP: $99
Part Number: RT-N16
UPC Code : 610839056583
Dimension(in) : 216 X 161.9 X 40.5mm
Gross Weight : 470g
Quantity per Carton : 10



[Wireless Networking – RT-N16]
RT-N16 has enough bandwidth and processing power to simultaneously handle file transfers and downloads, video streaming, games and VoIP calls. Advanced MIMO technology makes it all possible.

EZQoS – Easy Bandwidth Management
· Allocate more bandwidth for your applications
· Easy configuration

Simplified Setup Process
· Press the WPS Button to easily set up a secure and protected wireless network.

AiDisk
Access and share your local disk everywhere! To share media content with friends, just open the browser, type in your DDNS address (ex. ftp://YourName.asuscomm.com )

EZ All-In-One Printer
Sharing All-In-One Printer printing and scanning functions wirelessly for multiple user simultaneously without buying a printer server. Easy installation! Just run the “ASUS Network Printer Setup” program and follow the instructions.

Enhanced Download Master
Download Master, a unique technology found in ASUS wireless solutions, features several innovations to simplify the download process. Turn the RT-N16 router into a wireless storage center by attaching an external hard drive via USB 2.0. Download Master runs independent to the computer system, which means it takes up zero computing resource.
24/7 Non-Stop BT Download
HTTP, FTP, BT (BitTorrent) download protocols can be download automatically from the internet. You can keep downloading even when PC is off.
Super speed for P2P download
RT-N16 can support up to 300,000 sessions for P2P download with super speed, allows more users and clients to connect to internet and ensures an ultra-stable network connection.

Serpent
10-10-2009, 11:12
I don't get it as well... there is no store in germany, the netherlands, belgium, us or the uk that has it...
there isn't even a link on ebay, so why is it available in romania, russia and portugal?:confused:

That can involve only the gray market!
Officially isn't yet released on distribution channels, so...

xplay
15-10-2009, 16:54
That can involve only the gray market!
Officially isn't yet released on distribution channels, so...

I can confirm , in Romania is available at :
RT-N16 ASUS Netw SuperSpeed N Gigabit multifunctional WLAN Router with USB printer sharing $141,60 (no taxes included)

I see it with my eyes when i visited my friend at work ,and it`s available on an legit market distribution chanel !
My friend is workind on retail shop who distributed 80% Asus product !

Serpent
16-10-2009, 11:06
Anyway, from now on it will be available in all countries and territories! :p

Antiloop
16-10-2009, 13:28
the first Asus RT-N16 units have arrived at my company

dutch people can order them directly via email sales@vanboekel.net

the pricing is 135 euro including 19% VAT



here some details:

firmware version 1.0.0.6


cat /proc/cpuinfo

system type : Broadcom BCM4716 chip rev 1
processor : 0
cpu model : MIPS 74K V4.0
BogoMIPS : 238.59
wait instruction : no
microsecond timers : yes
tlb_entries : 64
extra interrupt vector : no
hardware watchpoint : yes
ASEs implemented : mips16 dsp
VCED exceptions : not available
VCEI exceptions : not available

unaligned_instructions : 2
dcache hits : 2147483648
dcache misses : 3543136790
icache hits : 2147483648
icache misses : 1605460392
instructions : 2147483648



uname -a

Linux (none) 2.6.22 #153 Tue Jun 23 16:25:53 CST 2009 mips unknown

wpte
16-10-2009, 16:31
BogoMIPS : 238.59

meaning it's running at 238mhz?:confused:

I mean my cpu at the wl-500w is running at 299mhz and says 299bogomips.

maybe because of the different kernels:p

al37919
16-10-2009, 17:15
bogomips != cpu freq
have a look in the wikipedia :)

eemdz
16-10-2009, 17:25
One key question is that whether this router uses BCM4718 or BCM4716. With BCM4718, it is possible to have third party firmware (really hoping oleg can create one for us) to support dual band wireless N. On the other hand, with BCM4716, it only supports 2.4Ghz band.

/proc/cpuinfo indicates the chip is BCM4716, and the name of this router, RT-N16 seems to point to BCM4716 being used. However, there are photos with BCM4718. Furthermore, according to a Chinese web site, http://neture.homeip.net/digiland/viewtopic.php?id=882&p=1, the CPU is actually BCM4718, but Broadcom tag the BCM ID to 4716. Also, the page pointed out that BCM4716 does not support USB ports.

So unless Asus put in a VIA USB chip (or a USB management chip of some sort), BCM4718 seems to be a more logical choice (well, everyone prefers BCM4718). Furthermore, BCM4718 and BCM4716 have different pin count (so you cannot just replace BCM4718 with BCM4716 without some re-arrangement of the board).

The only real way to tell is to open the router... Not sure anyone would be willing to do that though.

I really hope BCM4718's ID is incorrectly tagged so /proc/cpuinfo reports BCM4716. However, even if Asus did put in BCM4718, we still need a guru like oleg to enable dual band wireless N.

wpte
16-10-2009, 18:39
bogomips != cpu freq
have a look in the wikipedia :)
I know, but the bogomips are lower than my wl-500w!:p

wpte
16-10-2009, 22:26
just got my own rt-n16...
and it's quite good so far, alltough I think the firmware can be improved:p

list of processes:

PID Uid VSZ Stat Command
1 0 2444 S /sbin/preinit
2 0 SW< [kthreadd]
3 0 SWN [ksoftirqd/0]
4 0 SW< [events/0]
5 0 SW< [khelper]
22 0 SW< [kblockd/0]
48 0 SW [pdflush]
49 0 SW [pdflush]
50 0 SW< [kswapd0]
51 0 SW< [aio/0]
587 0 SW< [mtdblockd]
1801 0 2452 S httpd eth0
1802 0 860 S dproxy -d -c /tmp/dproxy.conf
1806 0 1780 S udhcpd /tmp/udhcpd.conf
1811 0 2296 S upnp -D -W eth0
1814 0 1472 S /bin/eapd
1818 0 1924 S nas
1820 0 1128 S igmp eth0
1825 0 SW< [khubd]
1856 0 2660 S u2ec
1860 0 2660 S u2ec
1862 0 2660 S u2ec
1863 0 1172 S lpd
1878 0 1568 S lld2d br0
1879 0 1744 S /usr/sbin/wanduck
1889 0 2728 S /bin/wps_monitor
1890 0 1748 S infosvr br0
1891 0 2428 S ots
1892 0 2448 S watchdog
1897 0 Z [ntp]
1903 0 1756 S networkmap
1978 0 1728 S udhcpc -i eth0 -p /var/run/udhcpc0.pid -s /tmp/udhcpc
1999 0 1472 S syslogd -m 0 -O /tmp/syslog.log -b 0
2001 0 2428 S ntp
2042 0 SW< [scsi_eh_1]
2043 0 SW< [usb-storage]
2059 0 2088 S /sbin/vsftpd
2064 0 6788 S /usr/local/samba/sbin/smbd -D -s /tmp/samba/lib/smb.c
2066 0 4868 S /usr/local/samba/sbin/nmbd -D -s /tmp/samba/lib/smb.c
2067 0 6788 S /usr/local/samba/sbin/smbd -D -s /tmp/samba/lib/smb.c
2110 0 7088 S /usr/local/samba/sbin/smbd -D -s /tmp/samba/lib/smb.c
2157 0 5412 S /apps/bin/dms /shares/DMSRoot RT-N16 00:26:18:A1:3C:F
2158 0 5412 S /apps/bin/dms /shares/DMSRoot RT-N16 00:26:18:A1:3C:F
2159 0 5412 S /apps/bin/dms /shares/DMSRoot RT-N16 00:26:18:A1:3C:F
2160 0 5412 S /apps/bin/dms /shares/DMSRoot RT-N16 00:26:18:A1:3C:F
2166 0 5896 R ./rtorrent
2168 0 336 S ./dmathined /shares/dmathined
2172 0 2224 S giftd --home-dir=/shares/dmathined/Download --local-d
2182 0 1476 S sh -c ps > /tmp/syscmd.log
2183 0 1476 R ps
and yes the download master still uses rtorrent to download torrents, still rather slow than normal... BUT faster than the wl-500 series.

disk speeds I tested so far with a 6GB SD card (with 20/15 mb/s speeds)
all under windows 7 64bit final version, ftp and samba didn't differ in speed... ftp was usually worse than samba.

http://wpte.kicks-ass.net/images/upload/graph.jpg
more pics and stuff: http://wpte.kicks-ass.net/news.php?readmore=13

QoS should be turned off because it just kills your speed on anything...
to make it "off" just don't use it, completely empty all settings... kinda fail from asus :p

avberk
17-10-2009, 18:25
Can someone measure the actual power consumption of the RTN16?

I am interested in how much more it consumes than a wl500gp. The wl500gp consumes about 7 watt...

hggomes
17-10-2009, 18:54
Can someone measure the actual power consumption of the RTN16?

I am interested in how much more it consumes than a wl500gp. The wl500gp consumes about 7 watt...

Nearly the same ~10W

Masterman
17-10-2009, 21:26
just got my own rt-n16...
and it's quite good so far, alltough I think the firmware can be improved:p

list of processes:

PID Uid VSZ Stat Command
1 0 2444 S /sbin/preinit
2 0 SW< [kthreadd]
3 0 SWN [ksoftirqd/0]
4 0 SW< [events/0]
5 0 SW< [khelper]
22 0 SW< [kblockd/0]
48 0 SW [pdflush]
49 0 SW [pdflush]
50 0 SW< [kswapd0]
51 0 SW< [aio/0]
587 0 SW< [mtdblockd]
1801 0 2452 S httpd eth0
1802 0 860 S dproxy -d -c /tmp/dproxy.conf
1806 0 1780 S udhcpd /tmp/udhcpd.conf
1811 0 2296 S upnp -D -W eth0
1814 0 1472 S /bin/eapd
1818 0 1924 S nas
1820 0 1128 S igmp eth0
1825 0 SW< [khubd]
1856 0 2660 S u2ec
1860 0 2660 S u2ec
1862 0 2660 S u2ec
1863 0 1172 S lpd
1878 0 1568 S lld2d br0
1879 0 1744 S /usr/sbin/wanduck
1889 0 2728 S /bin/wps_monitor
1890 0 1748 S infosvr br0
1891 0 2428 S ots
1892 0 2448 S watchdog
1897 0 Z [ntp]
1903 0 1756 S networkmap
1978 0 1728 S udhcpc -i eth0 -p /var/run/udhcpc0.pid -s /tmp/udhcpc
1999 0 1472 S syslogd -m 0 -O /tmp/syslog.log -b 0
2001 0 2428 S ntp
2042 0 SW< [scsi_eh_1]
2043 0 SW< [usb-storage]
2059 0 2088 S /sbin/vsftpd
2064 0 6788 S /usr/local/samba/sbin/smbd -D -s /tmp/samba/lib/smb.c
2066 0 4868 S /usr/local/samba/sbin/nmbd -D -s /tmp/samba/lib/smb.c
2067 0 6788 S /usr/local/samba/sbin/smbd -D -s /tmp/samba/lib/smb.c
2110 0 7088 S /usr/local/samba/sbin/smbd -D -s /tmp/samba/lib/smb.c
2157 0 5412 S /apps/bin/dms /shares/DMSRoot RT-N16 00:26:18:A1:3C:F
2158 0 5412 S /apps/bin/dms /shares/DMSRoot RT-N16 00:26:18:A1:3C:F
2159 0 5412 S /apps/bin/dms /shares/DMSRoot RT-N16 00:26:18:A1:3C:F
2160 0 5412 S /apps/bin/dms /shares/DMSRoot RT-N16 00:26:18:A1:3C:F
2166 0 5896 R ./rtorrent
2168 0 336 S ./dmathined /shares/dmathined
2172 0 2224 S giftd --home-dir=/shares/dmathined/Download --local-d
2182 0 1476 S sh -c ps > /tmp/syscmd.log
2183 0 1476 R ps
and yes the download master still uses rtorrent to download torrents, still rather slow than normal... BUT faster than the wl-500 series.

disk speeds I tested so far with a 6GB SD card (with 20/15 mb/s speeds)
all under windows 7 64bit final version, ftp and samba didn't differ in speed... ftp was usually worse than samba.


format write read
EXT2 1,10mb/s 320kb/s
EXT3 1,20mb/s 154kb/s
EXT4 [not working]
NTFS ~4mb/s 400kb/s
FAT32 440kb/s 330kb/s

quite poor results:confused:

anyway... the QoS seems limiting my internet now and then, like 3mbit instead of 12mbit:p

edit: seems to be the qos also works for LAN and killing the sd speeds...
NTFS is 6mb 6mb now!




I just ordered mine through Newegg for $99USD shipped (they sold out within 24 hours of having them!).

Could you please do a
cat /proc/cpuinfo plz?


also perhaps a
wl bands and
wl status



First thing I do when I get it is flash with DD-WRT mini-asus.trx (2.4 kernal) and backup the CFE to send to the devs.

I'm so glad it has a JTAG on it!

wpte
17-10-2009, 22:11
I just ordered mine through Newegg for $99USD shipped (they sold out within 24 hours of having them!).

Could you please do a
cat /proc/cpuinfo plz?


also perhaps a
wl bands and
wl status



First thing I do when I get it is flash with DD-WRT mini-asus.trx (2.4 kernal) and backup the CFE to send to the devs.

I'm so glad it has a JTAG on it!

cpuinfo:

system type : Broadcom BCM4716 chip rev 1
processor : 0
cpu model : MIPS 74K V4.0
BogoMIPS : 238.59
wait instruction : no
microsecond timers : yes
tlb_entries : 64
extra interrupt vector : no
hardware watchpoint : yes
ASEs implemented : mips16 dsp
VCED exceptions : not available
VCEI exceptions : not available

unaligned_instructions : 3
dcache hits : 2147483648
dcache misses : 4258606080
icache hits : 2147483648
icache misses : 4025997630
instructions : 2147483648

I can confirm the suspicion on the chinese forums: http://neture.homeip.net/digiland/viewtopic.php?id=882&p=1
they probably gave the cpu a different tag... since the bord looks exactly the same as on the pictures in post 1, as far as I could see trough the holes.
which means there is no extra chip for usb, so it must be a BCM4718... unless I overlooked the via chip:p


wl bands: b

wl status:

SSID: "*****"
Mode: Managed RSSI: 0 dBm noise: -73 dBm Channel: 8
BSSID: ******** Capability: ESS ShortSlot
Supported Rates: [ 1(b) 2(b) 5.5(b) 6 9 11(b) 12 18 24 36 48 54 ]
802.11N Capable:
Chanspec: 2.4GHz channel 8 40MHz (0x2d08)
Control channel: 6
802.11N Capabilities:
Supported MCS : [ 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 32 ]

free:

total used free shared buffers
Mem: 126336 76820 49516 0 5352
Swap: 32760 0 32760
Total: 159096 76820 82276

Masterman
18-10-2009, 00:10
Awesome, now if only you could post a CFE backup dump :) :


dd if=/dev/mtd/0 of=/tmp/cfe.bin

wpte
18-10-2009, 01:52
Awesome, now if only you could post a CFE backup dump :) :


dd if=/dev/mtd/0 of=/tmp/cfe.bin

now that doesn't seem to work on standard asus firmware!;)

Masterman
18-10-2009, 07:32
Has anyone that's received one of these routers tried to upload DD-WRT mini-asus.trx through the FW restoration Utility? This will allow you to run a Busybox shell so we can get more info for the dev's...

Hell, I tink OpenWRT has the 2.6 kernel FW's for this unit..?

Masterman
18-10-2009, 07:34
Awesome, now if only you could post a CFE backup dump :) :


dd if=/dev/mtd/0 of=/tmp/cfe.bin


BTW, what shell are you using? Telnet?

lly
18-10-2009, 09:19
BTW, what shell are you using? Telnet?
Command, your provided, fails due to devfs replaced with udev in 2.6, correct one should like:
dd if=/dev/mtd0 of=/tmp/cfe.bin

btw., CFE sources is available, RT-N16 CFE useless on other routers since it is MIPS32r2, why you need it?

wpte
18-10-2009, 11:34
Command, your provided, fails due to devfs replaced with udev in 2.6, correct one should like:
dd if=/dev/mtd0 of=/tmp/cfe.bin

btw., CFE sources is available, RT-N16 CFE useless on other routers since it is MIPS32r2, why you need it?

neither works for me lly:confused:

I'm just using the Main_AdmStatus_Content.asp page to execute commands:p
and I'm not going to upload any other firmware than oleg... especially not when there are no positive results out there for this router.;)

I'm not trying to make you rush lly, just keep on going:p;)

lly
18-10-2009, 11:46
I'm not trying to make you rush lly, just keep on going:p;)
Sorry, I forgot that original firmware doesn't has "dd" command. Just use
cat /dev/mtd0 >/tmp/cfe.bin
Anyway, I has this image already :p

btw., Some people who can't want wait our release, opens telnet in original FW - RT-N16 + telnet (automatic translate from Russian) (http://translate.google.ru/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwl500g.info%2Fshowpost.ph p%3Fp%3D164854%26postcount%3D108%26langid%3D3&sl=ru&tl=en&hl=en&ie=UTF-8)

wpte
18-10-2009, 16:21
Sorry, I forgot that original firmware doesn't has "dd" command. Just use
cat /dev/mtd0 >/tmp/cfe.bin
Anyway, I has this image already :p

btw., Some people who can't want wait our release, opens telnet in original FW - RT-N16 + telnet (automatic translate from Russian) (http://translate.google.ru/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwl500g.info%2Fshowpost.ph p%3Fp%3D164854%26postcount%3D108%26langid%3D3&sl=ru&tl=en&hl=en&ie=UTF-8)

thanks lly, I love telenet:p
here another mirror from me: http://wpte.kicks-ass.net/downloads.php?cat_id=1&download_id=12
no waiting for that one ;)

anyway, the long awaited code::cool:

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the packet will be sent through the network interface, so this command
can be used for a simple network test.

This command loads an executable file into memory, but does not
execute it. It can be used for loading data files, overlays or
other programs needed before the 'boot' command is used. By
default, 'load' will load a raw binary at virtual address 0x20000000.m number of bytes to load (raw only)|-addr=*;Specify the load address (hex) (raw only)
This command loads and executes a program from a boot device
By default, 'boot' will load a raw binary at virtual
address 0x20000000 and then jump to that address only)|-addr=*;Specify the load address (hex) (raw only)|-noclose;Don't close network link before executing program
The 'go' command will start a program previously loaded with
the 'load' command. You can override the start address byspecifying it as a parameter to the 'go' command.
This command loads and executes a batch file from a boot deviceBCM47XX SYSTEM RESET!!!


**DO NOT TURN OFF YOUR MACHINE UNTIL IT REBOOTS!**


HTTP IN USED!
<table border=0 cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0 bgcolor=#306498>
<tr><td height=57 width=600><font face=Arial size=6 color=#ffffff>Broadcom - CFE miniWeb Server</td></tr></font></table>
<br><form action=f2.htm method=post encType=multipart/form-data>
Firmware File <input type=file size=35 name=files><input type=submit value=Upload></form><br>
<br>Command:<br><a href=do.htm?cmd=reboot>Reboot.</a><br><a href=do.htm?cmd=nvram+erase>Restore default NVRAM values.</a></form>
</body></html>
</font></font></font>Pragma: no-cache
Cache-Control: no-cache
Connection: close

<!-- Recive file size=%d bytes-->%s</BODY></HTML>
</font>
**DO NOT TURN OFF YOUR MACHINE UNTIL IT REBOOTS!**

ERROR. Flash device write error at address %x
: EPC=%08X, Cause=%08X (%9s)
dcom BCM47xx 10/100 Mbps Ethernet Controller


[lots of questionmark signs from the ascii table...]

wpte
18-10-2009, 17:18
just want to note something...
samba uses about 10% cpu per megabyte per second
and right now it's only using 10%... kinda under optimized imo:p

lly, is there going to be EXT4 support? the faster, safer format?:p

lly
18-10-2009, 18:09
lly, is there going to be EXT4 support? the faster, safer format?:p
I didn't read about EXT4 advantages yet. If current kernel support it, you are will free to test it ;)

wpte
18-10-2009, 18:22
I didn't read about EXT4 advantages yet. If current kernel support it, you are will free to test it ;)


EXT4 introduces Extents to replace the block mapping scheme used on earlier generations of the extended file-system, persistent pre-allocation, delayed allocation, precision timestamps, and journal check summing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext4
things like this:

An extent is a range of contiguous physical blocks, improving large file performance and reducing fragmentation.

it should be possible in the Linux 2.6.28 kernel... and since the router has 2.6 drivers now;)

just check out the graphs from page 2 to page 8: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ext4_benchmarks&num=2
overall EXT4 is significantly faster according to these benchmarks:)

theMIROn
18-10-2009, 18:28
it should be possible in the Linux 2.6.28 kernel... and since the router has 2.6 drivers now;)But original fw has only 2.4.22 kernel, our new fw will be based on latest 2.6 kernel, but it's not done yet
Moreover, we prefer to update kernel than to fall deeply down to backports

wpte
18-10-2009, 20:08
But original fw has only 2.4.22 kernel, our new fw will be based on latest 2.6 kernel, but it's not done yet
Moreover, we prefer to update kernel than to fall deeply down to backports

uhm... how do you mean fall deeply down into backports?
the EXT4 support is added in kernel 2.6.28 and will have support in later kernels, so there is no need for backporting?
OR do you mean you want to add the same functionality to the WL-500 series as with the RT-N series?:confused:

lly
18-10-2009, 20:14
OR do you mean you want to add the same functionality to the WL-500 series as with the RT-N series?:confused:
top secret :p - we will try to support 2.6 based FW on 500gp V1/V2, 500W, RT-N16 :)

theMIROn try to say, that we will try upgrade bundled 2.6.22 kernel to latest possible.

theMIROn
18-10-2009, 20:19
top secret :p - we will try to support 2.6 based FW on 500gp V1/V2, 500W, RT-N16 :)yep, almost all devices except 4mb flash ones


theMIROn try to say, that we will try upgrade bundled 2.6.22 kernel to latest possible.benefits: various usb, l2tp, nat/iptables, etc issues are fixed by mainstream =)

wpte
18-10-2009, 20:37
sounds good:)
but there is a slight chance EXT4 will be included then?:p

theMIROn
18-10-2009, 20:40
sounds good:)
but there is a slight chance EXT4 will be included then?:p
1.9.2.7-d includes some kernel drivers in the external module archive, so why not to do the same with 1.9.2.7-e?

Masterman
18-10-2009, 21:03
Lookin good guys...Only 3 more days til mine arrives. :cool:

BTW, I have the official FCC page on the router, confirming that it is not dual band, along with bench tests and high res pictures;

https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/ViewExhibitReport.cfm?mode=Exhibits&RequestTimeout=500&calledFromFrame=N&application_id=583162&fcc_id=%27MSQRTN16%27

wpte
18-10-2009, 21:54
Lookin good guys...Only 3 more days til mine arrives. :cool:

BTW, I have the official FCC page on the router, confirming that it is not dual band, along with bench tests and high res pictures;

https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/ViewExhibitReport.cfm?mode=Exhibits&RequestTimeout=500&calledFromFrame=N&application_id=583162&fcc_id=%27MSQRTN16%27

it does say: "BCM4718A"
so dualband might be possible?:p
nowhere a via usb chip to be found:D

Masterman
18-10-2009, 22:01
it does say: "BCM4718A"
so dualband might be possible?:p
nowhere a via usb chip to be found:D


Dual band will not be possible. The device only has one radio and uses 16 pin amps:

http://www.sige.com/uploads/briefs/DST-00074_SiGe_SE2528L_brief_Rev_Sep-10-2008.pdf

wpte
18-10-2009, 22:13
Dual band will not be possible. The device only has one radio and uses 16 pin amps:

http://www.sige.com/uploads/briefs/DST-00074_SiGe_SE2528L_brief_Rev_Sep-10-2008.pdf

awww.... ur right:(
the amps don't even work for 5ghz...

avberk
19-10-2009, 22:45
Nearly the same ~10W

Thanks for measuring!

It's only 3W difference, but 43% more power consumption
than a wl500gp :)

Masterman
20-10-2009, 02:54
So has anyone tried to upload a build yet? Remember, there is a serial connection and JTAG pinouts on the mobo. DL the firmware with telnet, backup your CFE file ;)

I gotta wait 3 days for mine...

domper
22-10-2009, 10:36
There's a small review with performance charts here (http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/wireless/wireless-reviews/30958-new-to-the-charts-asus-rt-n16-multi-functional-gigabit-superspeedn-router). I'm a bit disappointed, I expected much better routing and wireless performance - now there's a Zyxel NBG-460N at my home for testing purposes, less features but more then 400MBit/sec routing and 110 MBps real wireless speed.

Can someone confirm if these speeds mentoined in the article above are the limit of this device? Now my ISP provides 120 MBps, this router may be the bottleneck after the next speedincrease....

hggomes
22-10-2009, 11:36
There's a small review with performance charts here (http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/wireless/wireless-reviews/30958-new-to-the-charts-asus-rt-n16-multi-functional-gigabit-superspeedn-router). I'm a bit disappointed, I expected much better routing and wireless performance - now there's a Zyxel NBG-460N at my home for testing purposes, less features but more then 400MBit/sec routing and 110 MBps real wireless speed.

Can someone confirm if these speeds mentoined in the article above are the limit of this device? Now my ISP provides 120 MBps, this router may be the bottleneck after the next speedincrease....

I think you cannot trust in that review:

http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/component/option,com_chart/Itemid,189/

Or it may be a firmware issue cause if you noticed the Linksys WRT320N is equiped with the slower BCM4717 CPU 354MHZ and is a better performer, just like WRT600N with BCM4705 300MHZ (very the same as BCM4704 from WL500GP) and it measures 164MB, in that review its considered better than RT-N16 and WRT320N, not possible...

Samba performance write is less than my WL-500GP? Don't think so.

Wait for OLEG firmware ;)

msj33
22-10-2009, 21:59
May i suggest a new Forum group for the RTN16 or the new RTN models?

Seems already quite popular, and now its out, I guess a lot more questions, guides, pictures & firmware will be posted in the near future.

Cannot find the Router anywhere in Denmark.......still searching.....

By the way - Thanks to all you guys for benchmark testing and so on....Great

hggomes
22-10-2009, 22:43
May i suggest a new Forum group for the RTN16 or the new RTN models?

Seems already quite popular, and now its out, I guess a lot more questions, guides, pictures & firmware will be posted in the near future.

Cannot find the Router anywhere in Denmark.......still searching.....

By the way - Thanks to all you guys for benchmark testing and so on....Great

I was thinking the same.

Administrators please move this thread to: AsusForum.NET -- WL500g > Asus RT-N16 and please rename "NEW ASUS RTN16" to "NEW ASUS RT-N16"

Thanks ;)

wpte
23-10-2009, 01:25
I was thinking the same.

Administrators please move this thread to: AsusForum.NET -- WL500g > Asus RT-N16 and please rename "NEW ASUS RTN16" to "NEW ASUS RT-N16"

Thanks ;)

I looked up how to create another sub forum here... but I don't have the rights:p
so we have to wait for antiloop or oleg to make such forum:)
I wrote antiloop a PM already...

Masterman
23-10-2009, 01:37
Here are the stock capabilities and I've attached the cfe.bin



# cd /bin
# ls
ash dmesg grep mv rmdir uname
attr eapd kill netstat setfacl usleep
busybox echo ln ping setfattr wps_ap
cat egrep ls ping6 sh wps_monitor
chacl false mkdir printenv sleep
chmod fgrep mknod ps touch
cp getfacl more pwd true
df getfattr mount rm umount
#










# cd /sbin
# ls
arp rmwebcam
convert_asus_values route
ddns_updated rsrom
eject_usb1 run_apps
eject_usb2 run_dms
erase run_ftp
gpio run_ftpsamba
halt run_samba
hotplug sendalarm
hotplug2 speedtest
hotplug_usb_mass start_ddns
ifconfig start_dns
init stats
initial_var_file stop_dms
insmod stop_ftp
ip stop_ftpsamba
klogd stop_samba
logread stopservice
lsmod swapoff
mkswap swapon
ntp sysctl
ots syslogd
pivot_root test_of_var_files_in_mount_path
poweroff udevtrigger
preinit vsftpd
radioctrl watchdog
rc waveservermain
rcamdmain wlan_update
reboot wmac
restart_qos write
restore write_disc_status
rmmod write_smb_conf
rmstorage wsrom
#









# cd /usr/bin
# ls
[ dirname free less tail uptime
[[ du head mkfifo telnet wget
basename env hostid passwd test xargs
clear expr id printf top yes
cut find killall reset traceroute
#






# cd /usr/sbin
# ls
brctl igs ntpclient upnp
chpasswd infosvr nvram upnpnat
dnsmasq iptables pppd utelnetd
dproxy iptables-restore pppoe vconfig
emf l2tp-control pppoe-relay wanduck
epi_ttcp l2tpd pptp wl
et lld2d rdate wlconf
ez-ipupdate lld2d.conf tc wrt54g.large.ico
httpd lpd telnetd wrt54g.small.ico
icon.ico nas u2ec
igmp nas4not udhcpc
igmpproxy networkmap udhcpd
#

CHRONOMASTER
23-10-2009, 01:52
That's funny. Look at line 763 of RT-N16cfe.bin in a text editor or offset 2FC88h in a hex editor.

Masterman
23-10-2009, 02:04
That's funny. Look at line 763 of RT-N16cfe.bin in a text editor or offset 2FC88h in a hex editor.

"What are you fucking doing!!"


LMAO!

wpte
23-10-2009, 12:02
"What are you fucking doing!!"


LMAO!

yes indeed:D

still kinda unprofessional feel tho:rolleyes:

theMIROn
23-10-2009, 12:12
That's funny. Look at line 763 of RT-N16cfe.bin in a text editor or offset 2FC88h in a hex editor.
It's not a surprise, same message exists in almost every brcm cfe
just execute following to check it ;)


cat /dev/mtd/0 | grep doing

Serpent
23-10-2009, 23:05
Maybe this is the Broadcom motto! :rolleyes:

wpte
24-10-2009, 01:16
is it safe to try out http://wl500g.googlecode.com/svn/branches/rt-n/ yet?
or is it still in such an alpha state it would be dangerous to compile and flash?:o

theMIROn
24-10-2009, 01:50
is it safe to try out http://wl500g.googlecode.com/svn/branches/rt-n/ yet?
or is it still in such an alpha state it would be dangerous to compile and flash?:o
I'd rather say that it's in pre-pre-alpha state, branch cannot be even built.
So, be patient, please

jacktheripper
25-10-2009, 10:24
There is a new ASUS RT-N16 beta firmware Version 9.9.3.7
Has someone this already tested?

http://support.asus.com/download/download.aspx?SLanguage=en-us&product=11&model=RT-N16

wpte
25-10-2009, 10:40
There is a new ASUS RT-N16 beta firmware Version 9.9.3.7
Has someone this already tested?

http://support.asus.com/download/download.aspx?SLanguage=en-us&product=11&model=RT-N16

I just tried it...
usb disk speeds seem to be averagely a bit better... But I couldn't find any other changes:p
maybe they tweaked QoS a bit more? dunno, since I'm not messing with it anymore;)

jacktheripper
25-10-2009, 11:06
I just tried it...
usb disk speeds seem to be averagely a bit better... But I couldn't find any other changes:p
maybe they tweaked QoS a bit more? dunno, since I'm not messing with it anymore;)

FTP interface has changed and FTP is working beter now.

cichy
27-10-2009, 00:54
If i understand correctly there's no alternative firmware for this router, i mean yet available :> I have a question to owner/user of this new thingy from Asus :) How does Download Master act now, is it still crappy program like in WL500gP or did they managed to make it better :)

wpte
27-10-2009, 00:57
If i understand correctly there's no alternative firmware for this router, i mean yet available :> I have a question to owner/user of this new thingy from Asus :) How does Download Master act now, is it still crappy program like in WL500gP or did they managed to make it better :)

It downloads a lot faster!
it still uses rtorrent for torrents...
the settings are still limited, and I just found a crashing torrent running today, but it's definitely improved;)

cichy
27-10-2009, 02:49
So it's worth changing my WL-500gP v1 to RT-N16. How about its load (use of ram and processor). wpte do you think it could run some lightened linux distro i.e. Debian or Slackware, ofc after modification, or just Asus based modification, similiar to wl500 firmware?

al37919
27-10-2009, 06:23
even on wl500gp it was possible to run debian in chrooted environment on top of Oleg firmware. With 128Mb RAM it could be worthwile. However, I think with stock fw it wil require too much efforts.

Tamadite
31-10-2009, 21:45
"It is built around a Broadcom BCM4718 Intensi-fi XLR 802.11n Simultaneous Dual-Band (2.4/5 GHz) Router SoC Wireless Network Processor, which includes the processor, BB/MAC and radios. But only the 2.4 GHz radio is enabled, making the RT-N16 a 2.4 GHz single-band router."

http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/wireless/wireless-reviews/30958-new-to-the-charts-asus-rt-n16-multi-functional-gigabit-superspeedn-router

wpte
01-11-2009, 00:01
"It is built around a Broadcom BCM4718 Intensi-fi XLR 802.11n Simultaneous Dual-Band (2.4/5 GHz) Router SoC Wireless Network Processor, which includes the processor, BB/MAC and radios. But only the 2.4 GHz radio is enabled, making the RT-N16 a 2.4 GHz single-band router."

http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/wireless/wireless-reviews/30958-new-to-the-charts-asus-rt-n16-multi-functional-gigabit-superspeedn-router

it has only 2.4ghz amplifiers... so to unlock 5ghz we need to make a little board with 5ghz amplifiers and hook it up:p

al37919
01-11-2009, 09:45
in Russia 5HGz is in use by military and consumer devices in this freq. range are prohibited. So, I may guess that RT-N16 is mainly targeted for the Russian market :)

Tamadite
01-11-2009, 10:56
I have been anxiously waiting for getting a RT-N16, specially to improve the server capabilities (WEB, FTP, VPN, NAS, etc) but now I have ordered a SheevaPlug so the new router project will be put aside for a while:

* Marvell Kirkwood 6281 CPU at 1.2 GHz with 256 KB L2 cache
* 512 MB RAM
* 512 MB flash
* Gigabit Ethernet
* 1x USB and 1x SD
* mini-USB with serial console and JTAG
* Consuption: 2.3W Idle with everything unpluged; 3.3W Idle with gigabit ethernet; 5.0W Idle with gigabit+HDD USB+serial; 7.0W +100% cpu
* Look at its size!

Price: 101.99USD + 50.42USD shipping

http://www.globalscaletechnologies.com/t-sheevaplugdetails.aspx#features
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SheevaPlug

wpte
01-11-2009, 15:55
in Russia 5HGz is in use by military and consumer devices in this freq. range are prohibited. So, I may guess that RT-N16 is mainly targeted for the Russian market :)

who cares about the military:D
btw... a router is a consumer device:confused:

wiki: "Consumer electronics include electronic equipment intended for everyday use.":p

al37919
01-11-2009, 17:25
who cares about the military:D

may be somebody really not care, however, I prefer to stay within legal space. As I wrote in my country 5GHz range is prohibited.

Lesiuk
03-11-2009, 20:05
may be somebody really not care, however, I prefer to stay within legal space. As I wrote in my country 5GHz range is prohibited.

Where do you live? Here in poland every wireless isp have 5 ghz in offer. Its even cheaper than 2 ghz.

al37919
03-11-2009, 21:51
Where do you live? Here in poland every wireless isp have 5 ghz in offer. Its even cheaper than 2 ghz.
Here is an article from May 2007 which explains the source of the problem, and also I think a reason of so long time needed to accept the 802.11n standard in final form. It seems that in the last several years EU made some efforts to overcome it, while Russia not. It is google-translated, however I think it is possible to get an idea what is it about.


5 GHz, the problem of Russia and Europe

Big problems developing the 802.11n standard associated with the frequency range of 5 GHz. Recall that the standard B and G use the frequency band 2.4 GHz --- license-free band, which uses and other peripherals: cordless phones, radio modules, etc. In this band 13 channels are available, but in densely populated areas are often situations when they are overloaded, the connection is problematic, there is a conflict. Not to mention that the banal microwave degrades signal quality. Among the possible solutions have been chosen to use the frequency band 5 GHz. In the United States it is an open frequency range, which already runs the standard 802.11a.

In Europe and Russia, the situation is more complicated, since this frequency range is reserved for military purposes. These frequencies, among other things, are used by radars, and this is a real problem. As a result, 802.11a products are banned in Russia for use. In Europe it is requested to release this frequency, but the problem did not end there.

Radars are still using this frequency range, so the producers had to integrate the modules for the 5-GHz band protocol DFS (Dynamic Frequency Selection). Its principle is simple: before using the band 5 GHz main device (wireless router) to check the presence of radar signals. If the signals are detected, you will have to move to a new frequency. If the signals are not found, will use this frequency, but the router will continuously monitor it. If the interference will be detected, then the transfer will be stopped, the router will have to find a new channel. By European standards, you can use equipment that meets standards DFS 1.2.3, while in March 2008 planned output standard 1.3.1, which will include the results of recent studies. Yes, you guessed it, all products comply with Draft 2.0 Standard 1.2.3.

In some European countries, in particular, in France, in December 2005 issued a decree ordering that all the 5-GHz peripherals standard 1.3.1. Therefore, standard equipment 1.2.3 officially sold there is not. Everything becomes more complicated, given that the transition to standard 1.3.1 requires making physical changes to the modules to match the new protocol monitoring. What do sellers with the periphery draft 2.0? It is necessary to disable the use of 5 GHz, which significantly reduces the advantage of new modules. Another option - reducing the number of channels available in the 5 GHz band, from 11 to 3. But then in densely populated areas increases the chances of conflict.

Masterman
06-11-2009, 20:28
Ok, so I got bored about 30 minutes ago. Decided what the hell, I'll try to flash a DD-WRT image on the RT.


Using the Asus FW restoration utility I did the following:

Put device into restore mode

Uploaded clear-nvram.trx - suceeded

Uploaded nvram-restore.trx - suceeded

Uploaded mini-asus.trx - Failure.



So I got to thinking....


Tried the following:

Uploaded clear-nvram.trx - Suceeded

Uploaded the RT's CFE.bin - Suceeded

Uploaded the stock firmware w/ telnet - Suceeded!!


Router is back in operation. :D


I noticed that when the mini-asus.trx was uploaded and failed, I unplugged the power and plugged it back in only to find that it was Already in restore mode.

The device is also ping-able when in restore mode.

Sooo, apparently Asus has incorporated some kind of failsafe mechanism which prevents the unit from bricking. At least that's my hypothesis.


Tomorrow I will attempt to upload a firmware with gigabit compatibility and see how that goes.

Suggestions?

I was thinking of using the Netgear WNR3500 FW since it shares the same BCM 4718 w/ Gigabit and 2.6 kernel..



Btw, $35 on : http://www.provantage.com/asus-rt-n16~BASU9138.htm

wpte
06-11-2009, 23:50
I noticed that when the mini-asus.trx was uploaded and failed, I unplugged the power and plugged it back in only to find that it was Already in restore mode.

The device is also ping-able when in restore mode.

Sooo, apparently Asus has incorporated some kind of failsafe mechanism which prevents the unit from bricking. At least that's my hypothesis.


uhm that's because to get tftp working? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trivial_File_Transfer_Protocol
when you restore firmware your computer has to receive an acknowledgement from the router as can be seen in the pictures:p
thus it needs to be pingable, otherwise you simply cannot restore anything:p

grimreaper
11-11-2009, 08:32
too good to be true, any word on the wireless output?
Would it be any better than my buffalo Whr HP g54?
:)

wpte
11-11-2009, 16:56
too good to be true, any word on the wireless output?
Would it be any better than my buffalo Whr HP g54?
:)

if you have draft-n devices for sure it would be better:p
I have no problem reaching 7 to 10 MB/s with my eee pc;)

though
12-11-2009, 01:23
i run a WDS system with 2 buildings that are about 2 blocks away from each other. i currently am using 2 buffalo routers with external antennas plugged in and it works flawlessly.

i see this has 3 antennas so would there be any problems plugging the external antenna into 1 of the antenna jacks only on each end? why are there 3 and would there be any problems if i do it this way?

thanks

wpte
12-11-2009, 02:27
i run a WDS system with 2 buildings that are about 2 blocks away from each other. i currently am using 2 buffalo routers with external antennas plugged in and it works flawlessly.

i see this has 3 antennas so would there be any problems plugging the external antenna into 1 of the antenna jacks only on each end? why are there 3 and would there be any problems if i do it this way?

thanks

no that wouldn't work properly...
the 3 antenna's are there for MIMO (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIMO)

Multi Input Multi Output
basicly this means the data is split over the 3 antenna's to optimize data flow and link quality (not talking about signal strength here).
So if you are using different antenna's than the normal ones, you should replace all of them to optimize the mimo.

I'm not sure how big the coverage must be and if any other wireless client uses the connection? but you're probably using some dish like antenna (point to point).
if they are multi directional (like the ones included) there shouldn't be a problem I guess:p
N networks generally have a bigger coverage than G networks btw.
so 3 the same antenna's is the best

though
12-11-2009, 06:14
"wouldn't work properly" ??

packet loss? slower speeds? what do you mean by not work properly. i have 2 directional high gain antennas that deliver a solid signal from the 2 points, but like i said, only 1 antenna on each end, not 3.




no that wouldn't work properly...
the 3 antenna's are there for MIMO (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIMO)

Multi Input Multi Output
basicly this means the data is split over the 3 antenna's to optimize data flow and link quality (not talking about signal strength here).
So if you are using different antenna's than the normal ones, you should replace all of them to optimize the mimo.

I'm not sure how big the coverage must be and if any other wireless client uses the connection? but you're probably using some dish like antenna (point to point).
if they are multi directional (like the ones included) there shouldn't be a problem I guess:p
N networks generally have a bigger coverage than G networks btw.
so 3 the same antenna's is the best

wpte
12-11-2009, 10:47
"wouldn't work properly" ??

packet loss? slower speeds? what do you mean by not work properly. i have 2 directional high gain antennas that deliver a solid signal from the 2 points, but like i said, only 1 antenna on each end, not 3.

yes packet loss and thus lower speeds.
so you're going to need 3 directional antenna's on both side:(

though
12-11-2009, 17:47
damn, was hoping it would be like the linksys wrt54gl where there are 2 antennas, but it only ACTUALLY uses 1 at a time (diversity) :confused:

Omega
18-11-2009, 16:36
no that wouldn't work properly...
the 3 antenna's are there for MIMO
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIMO)

basicly this means the data is split over the 3 antenna's to optimize
data flow and link quality (not talking about signal strength here).

N networks generally have a bigger coverage than G networks btw.
so 3 the same antenna's is the best

However, Asus RT-N16 only works on 2.4 Ghz (2TX/2RX MIMO) :rolleyes:
PA SE2528L : http://www.sige.com/uploads/briefs/DST-00074_SiGe_SE2528L_brief_Rev_Sep-10-2008.pdf

http://forum.netbynet.ru/uploads/monthly_11_2009/post-40347-1257773293.jpg

http://wl500g.info/showpost.php?p=166551&postcount=212 :cool:

http://forum.netbynet.ru/uploads/monthly_10_2009/post-40347-1256991682.jpg

http://www.dd-wrt.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=59240 ;)

http://triton.imageshack.us/Himg25/scaled.php?server=25&filename=p1020406r.jpg&res=gal http://triton.imageshack.us/Himg21/scaled.php?server=21&filename=p1020407w.jpg&res=gal http://triton.imageshack.us/Himg21/scaled.php?server=21&filename=p1020408g.jpg&res=gal

New foto Asus RT-N16 (http://img25.imageshack.us/g/p1020406r.jpg/) :)

hggomes
19-11-2009, 07:37
I've noticed my second RT-N16 is like "Omega" model REV 1.2 ;)
Really nice pictures, thanks ;)

I've got the "same" SAMSUNG chips in two DDR2 modules, these are 16 x 128MB (2GB) and the other 8 x 256MB (2GB).

http://www.datasheetdir.com/K4N51163QZ-HC25+DDR2-SDRAM

I'm really thinking to do it just i did with GP's and W's @128MB mod ;)
Is it to soon to @256MB or @512MB mod? :p

wpte
19-11-2009, 09:47
I'm really thinking to do it just i did with GP's and W's @128MB mod ;)
Is it to soon to @256MB or @512MB mod? :p

:p
would you need so much ram? I got quite a few programs running and with 128mb ram I could easily fit everything on it without having swap activated:D

hggomes
19-11-2009, 14:31
:p
would you need so much ram? I got quite a few programs running and with 128mb ram I could easily fit everything on it without having swap activated:D

MySql and Proxy Server, it's never alot ;)

Which are the "quite a few programs" you mean without using swap?

wpte
19-11-2009, 22:13
MySql and Proxy Server, it's never alot ;)

Which are the "quite a few programs" you mean without using swap?

nah I run quite a bit more than that really:p

mysql
php
lighttpd
php-httpd
xinetd
optware samba
oleg vsftp
rtorrent
squid
openvpn
cron
openssh
transmission
ushare
twonky media server
svn server

now and then I compile some stuff, usually taking up 40mb of ram, together with these programs it just stays below 100mb ram:p

hggomes
20-11-2009, 00:47
nah I run quite a bit more than that really:p

nah I run quite a bit more than that really

Quote:
mysql
php
lighttpd
php-httpd
xinetd
optware samba
oleg vsftp
rtorrent
squid
openvpn
cron
openssh
transmission
ushare
twonky media server
svn server

now and then I compile some stuff, usually taking up 40mb of ram, together with these programs it just stays below 100mb ram:p

That's really weird, i dont use so many services and i only have 10mb free or less, show me "ps" command please, that way i can understand why your services use so few memory.

total used free shared buffers cached
Mem: 127400 124860 2540 0 77440 20412
-/+ buffers/cache: 27008 100392
Swap: 2851508 22128 2829380

Maybe that's because i use a large MySQL database and i increased to the double my PHP memory and SQUID cache.

wpte
20-11-2009, 10:48
That's really weird, i dont use so many services and i only have 10mb free or less, show me "ps" command please, that way i can understand why your services use so few memory.

total used free shared buffers cached
Mem: 127400 124860 2540 0 77440 20412
-/+ buffers/cache: 27008 100392
Swap: 2851508 22128 2829380

Maybe that's because i use a large MySQL database and i increased to the double my PHP memory and SQUID cache.
large databases shouldn't really give you a higher memory usage... only when you set the mysql buffers higher. on a normal pc they are set to take up like 128-512mb ram or something, since ram reads quite a lot faster:p
so when it's going to end up at the harddrive anyway (swap) why bother putting the buffers high;)

php memory obvious...
squid cache... not that much I guess.


total used free shared buffers cached
Mem: 29960 29200 760 0 1620 6968
-/+ buffers/cache: 20612 9348
Swap: 522072 28220 493852

something like 57MB, not too bad I guess:)

Gingernut
22-11-2009, 13:27
system type : Broadcom BCM4716 chip rev 1
processor : 0
cpu model : MIPS 74K V4.0
BogoMIPS : 238.59
wait instruction : no
microsecond timers : yes
tlb_entries : 64
extra interrupt vector : no
hardware watchpoint : yes
ASEs implemented : mips16 dsp
VCED exceptions : not available
VCEI exceptions : not available

unaligned_instructions : 2
dcache hits : 2147483648
dcache misses : 3169071359
icache hits : 2147483648
icache misses : 4277460892
instructions : 2147483648

Does anybody know why the processor speed is at 238.59MHz and not at 533MHz?

Is Asus downclocking or restricting the speed or is the speed just not measured correctly?

And why is it reporting a BCM4716 and not a BCM4718 as I've opened mine and it definitely is a BCM4718 under the heatsink?

avberk
22-11-2009, 15:17
MIPS =Million instructions per second. This tells you how many instructions the processor can handle per second.

Mhz is just a frequency. If the frequency is higher the number of instructions will also rise, but only MIPS tells you the true capabilities of the processor.

BCM4716??
Could be the program you are using to detect the chip is too old and therefor is not aware of the newer chip. Try a different program perhaps.

Gingernut
22-11-2009, 16:26
If you log in to http://ip of your RT-N16/Main_AdmStatus_Content.asp
and introduce the command cat /proc/cpuinfo the output is what I posted, no program was used only the routers firmware.

But I thought BogoMIPS reported the real speed of the cpu in MHz as on other routers I have.

Masterman
22-11-2009, 18:00
RT-N16 now supported by DD-WRT:

http://www.dd-wrt.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=373806#373806

though
22-11-2009, 20:35
i wouldn't exactly say that yet, but the outlook is good :D


RT-N16 now supported by DD-WRT:

http://www.dd-wrt.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=373806#373806

wpte
23-11-2009, 17:53
going to try soon:
http://www.dd-wrt.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=61570


Link upgrade a ddwrt inicial:
http://www.dd-wrt.com/dd-wrtv2/downloads/others/eko/V24-K26/svn13297/Asus_RT-N16/dd-wrt.v24-13297_NEWD-2_K2.6_mini_RT-N16.trx

Link firmware Big:
http://www.dd-wrt.com/dd-wrtv2/downloads/others/eko/V24-K26/svn13297/Asus_RT-N16/dd-wrt.v24-13297_NEWD-2_K2.6_big.bin

update:
can't believe they are using the same wireless drivers... what a crap speed :S
I used to get over 144mbit and now it's all below 54mbit and sometimes slightly higher...

wpte
23-11-2009, 20:51
I can officially announce:
I get speeds over 10mb/s on dd-wrt

if they'd only fix wireless... over 100 transmission errors:rolleyes:


gonna bench some more, they did clock the router at 480mhz btw (so that's an underclock)


edit:


Mode Upload Download load
FTP 10.3MB/s 6.25MB/s ~90%
SMB 7.36MB/s 5.67MB/s ~80%
lighttpd 3.7MB/s ~25%


sorry if there are any daily users/fans of dd-wrt, but it honestly gives me a headache.

after lot of hacking I have my lighttpd running, not with eaccelerator since it didn't want to compile nor run...
got some results as well for that.
php generation on pages can be between 2-4 times faster than my wl500-w with exactly the same setup (apart from eaccelerator which could make it even faster)


oh and lly and theMIROn, please finish oleg for the rt-n16 soon, since dd-wrt is quite unbearable :p

Masterman
24-11-2009, 08:15
Set your Tx power to 20mW...

http://www.dd-wrt.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=374332#374332

wpte
24-11-2009, 11:49
Set your Tx power to 20mW...

http://www.dd-wrt.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=374332#374332

random tho... 71mW should be something like 17dB (the standard setting in asus firmware)...
I'll try it out when I'm home

update:
seems to work correctly now...
update2:
still only a 65mbit connection for my intel 4965AGN card, even when the signal quality is 100%
that was quite different on the original firmware, usually around 144mbit.
it only goes up high when I turn on another N client...

coolerstuff
28-11-2009, 10:41
Hi everyone, just new here in this forum and got some Q's regarding the RT-N16:
- Will there be dedicated forum on this site?
- Anyone knows an ETA of Oleg's FW for this router?
- Any experiences with regard to throughput when connected to an Airport Extreme receiver?
- I'd like to use the RT-N16 as a minimal webserver with ssh/sftp and samba for a USB stick plugged in one of the USB ports, + want to run a bittorrent does that sound feasible?
- Can one connect a webcam to the USB as a security cam, for example?
- What other router could do this stuff?
- Any chance to get this thing debianized?

Any infos are highly appreciated!!! This seems a neat community and a fun device for developing...

Thanks a lot to everyone
--cst

wpte
28-11-2009, 17:52
Hi everyone, just new here in this forum and got some Q's regarding the RT-N16:
- Will there be dedicated forum on this site?
- Anyone knows an ETA of Oleg's FW for this router?
- Any experiences with regard to throughput when connected to an Airport Extreme receiver?
- I'd like to use the RT-N16 as a minimal webserver with ssh/sftp and samba for a USB stick plugged in one of the USB ports, + want to run a bittorrent does that sound feasible?
- Can one connect a webcam to the USB as a security cam, for example?
- What other router could do this stuff?
- Any chance to get this thing debianized?

Any infos are highly appreciated!!! This seems a neat community and a fun device for developing...

Thanks a lot to everyone
--cst

- at some point yes
- uhm... 1-2 more months... dunno oleg for rt-n16 doesn't seems quite finished yet on svn
- I don't have anything apple in my house:p
- yes, I done it on DD-WRT already, anything that can be done with the other routers can be done on the rt-n16, only quite a lot faster:)
- dd-wrt has no such function as far as I see... but on oleg it should be possible. original asus firmware has removed that option as well:confused:
- uuuuuuuhhhhhhhh...... a really expensive cisco router?:D
- should be possible

newerakb
30-11-2009, 15:13
What's the availability like on this right now? I was too late when Newegg got their first shipment in, but now they've deactivated the item

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833320038&Tpk=rt-n16

What gives?

hggomes
17-12-2009, 17:26
I can officially announce:
I get speeds over 10mb/s on dd-wrt

gonna bench some more, they did clock the router at 480mhz btw (so that's an underclock)


edit:


Mode Upload Download load
FTP 10.3MB/s 6.25MB/s ~90%
SMB 7.36MB/s 5.67MB/s ~80%
lighttpd 3.7MB/s ~25%



I've tried DD-WRT yesterday and results were:

FTP
===

DW: 6.25MB/s
UL: 7.50MB/s

Are you sure is not the samba 7.36mb/s the ftp result?

msj33
22-12-2009, 18:57
Any status on Oleg firmware?

The russian RT-N16 thread is over 40 pages long!

There most be some kind of progress going on.

though
22-12-2009, 19:18
i would like to know this as well :)



Any status on Oleg firmware?

The russian RT-N16 thread is over 40 pages long!

There most be some kind of progress going on.

theMIROn
22-12-2009, 20:39
i would like to know this as well :)

rt-n branch changelog progress at googlecode.com:
http://code.google.com/p/wl500g/source/list?path=/branches/rt-n/

It boots, static wan/accelerated pptp/l2tp works out-of-box, wifi doesn't (needs some telnetting), flashfs wouldn't be implemented due jffs2 intentions (not implemented yes)

prince
23-12-2009, 11:39
i bought this router few days back'
now i am plugging my wd 1 tb home edition hdd with it .....its doesn't working with it
there are 2 icon in the network map ....when no usb device attach it shows no device
but when i plug in my hdd one of the icon disappear....and aidisk shows there is no hdd plug in

pls help

hggomes
06-01-2010, 04:54
i bought this router few days back'
now i am plugging my wd 1 tb home edition hdd with it .....its doesn't working with it
there are 2 icon in the network map ....when no usb device attach it shows no device
but when i plug in my hdd one of the icon disappear....and aidisk shows there is no hdd plug in

pls help

That's to strange, i've' got 4 x WD 1TB and they are all detected by the router.

FW version?

klasik
15-01-2010, 20:29
Hello, I need and advice which router I should buy: I am considering D-Link DIR-825 or Asus RT-N16.

I´d rather have D-Link, but I read somewhere that they often break down and that the firmware sucks. But I have heard that Asus is very good so I don´t know which one I should buy.

though
15-01-2010, 20:44
you're on an Asus thread. what do you think people are going to recommend?


Hello, I need and advice which router I should buy: I am considering D-Link DIR-825 or Asus RT-N16.

I´d rather have D-Link, but I read somewhere that they often break down and that the firmware sucks. But I have heard that Asus is very good so I don´t know which one I should buy.

hggomes
16-01-2010, 15:09
Hello, I need and advice which router I should buy: I am considering D-Link DIR-825 or Asus RT-N16.

I´d rather have D-Link, but I read somewhere that they often break down and that the firmware sucks. But I have heard that Asus is very good so I don´t know which one I should buy.

D-Link DIR-825 has interesting specs but i would prefer ASUS RT-N16.

CPU Speed: Atheros 680 Mhz
Flash size: 8 MB
RAM: 64 MB
Wireless: 2.4Ghz & 5Ghz


you're on an Asus thread. what do you think people are going to recommend?

Eheehehe ;)

wpte
17-01-2010, 14:58
D-Link DIR-825 has interesting specs but i would prefer ASUS RT-N16.

CPU Speed: Atheros 680 Mhz
Flash size: 8 MB
RAM: 64 MB
Wireless: 2.4Ghz & 5Ghz

true
on the other hand, the RT-N16 has 128MB ram and was it 32MB flash?
And the DIR-825 has 5GHz band, but it only has 2 antennas:confused:

though
17-01-2010, 20:21
RT-N16 for me :D


Hello, I need and advice which router I should buy: I am considering D-Link DIR-825 or Asus RT-N16.

I´d rather have D-Link, but I read somewhere that they often break down and that the firmware sucks. But I have heard that Asus is very good so I don´t know which one I should buy.

hggomes
18-01-2010, 20:54
Now we are talking ;)

We hope a new ASUS RT-Nxx soon with a > 600MHZ CPU / 256MB (DREAM MODE ON)

http://www.broadcom.com/press/release.php?id=s434508

http://pcs.co.uk/tag/broadcom/

protteus
21-01-2010, 00:20
Hello....first post

Can´t access ionline.pt and correiomanha.pt from netcabo Lisbon with this router (rt n16) with Teddy bear´s Tomato.

Yesterday all was fine with asus wl500gp with tomato victek.

Replaced now with WL500gp, everythings fine again.


Any idea


P:S (Tomato w/ default config)

hggomes
21-01-2010, 04:14
Have you tried opening those pages on RT-N16 with other FW? ASUS Original for example....




Hello....first post

Can´t access ionline.pt and correiomanha.pt from netcabo Lisbon with this router (rt n16) with Teddy bear´s Tomato.

Yesterday all was fine with asus wl500gp with tomato victek.

Replaced now with WL500gp, everythings fine again.


Any idea


P:S (Tomato w/ default config)

protteus
21-01-2010, 11:33
Have you tried opening those pages on RT-N16 with other FW? ASUS Original for example....

Will try it later. Really did not tested original ASUS firmware that came with the router nor the newest (if there is one) because what i really want is a firmware like Tomato 1.27 or tomato victek (don´t like dd-wrt).

I have one WL500gp with tomato victek, one wrt54gl also with tomato victek and everything was doing fine.

I went to buy a rt-n16 as soon as i knew that there was tomato firmware support for it.

Loaded dd-wrt and next tomato, doing exactly like it was told in the forum.

No complains, except that part of being impossible to get ionline.pt and correiomanha.pt

who.is reported those sites being active!!!

those two sites ip are in the 62.xx.xx.xx area strangely!

i could ping other ip but those not.


Very strange indeed

hggomes
21-01-2010, 12:00
That could be the problem, maybe for some reason those IPs are being blocked by the router.

Pinging www.correiodamanha.pt [62.28.82.5] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 62.28.82.5: bytes=32 time=42ms TTL=117
Reply from 62.28.82.5: bytes=32 time=37ms TTL=117
Reply from 62.28.82.5: bytes=32 time=34ms TTL=117
Reply from 62.28.82.5: bytes=32 time=43ms TTL=117



Will try it later. Really did not tested original ASUS firmware that came with the router nor the newest (if there is one) because what i really want is a firmware like Tomato 1.27 or tomato victek (don´t like dd-wrt).

I have one WL500gp with tomato victek, one wrt54gl also with tomato victek and everything was doing fine.

I went to buy a rt-n16 as soon as i knew that there was tomato firmware support for it.

Loaded dd-wrt and next tomato, doing exactly like it was told in the forum.

No complains, except that part of being impossible to get ionline.pt and correiomanha.pt

who.is reported those sites being active!!!

those two sites ip are in the 62.xx.xx.xx area strangely!

i could ping other ip but those not.


Very strange indeed

protteus
21-01-2010, 14:03
That could be the problem, maybe for some reason those IPs are being blocked by the router.

Pinging www.correiodamanha.pt [62.28.82.5] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 62.28.82.5: bytes=32 time=42ms TTL=117
Reply from 62.28.82.5: bytes=32 time=37ms TTL=117
Reply from 62.28.82.5: bytes=32 time=34ms TTL=117
Reply from 62.28.82.5: bytes=32 time=43ms TTL=117

The reason being???

Remember it´s Tomato with default settings

hggomes
21-01-2010, 17:59
The reason being???

Remember it´s Tomato with default settings

I also don't know the reason, but changing to ASUS FW it's the only way to see if the problem it's related with Tomato.

Só agora é que reparei que também és Tuga ;)
I only now noticed that you are Portuguese too ;)

though
21-01-2010, 19:28
maybe *they* blocked your ip :D

hggomes
21-01-2010, 22:48
New pictures ;)

I finally measured the temperature from STOCK and NEW cooler after 1 hour of use and those were the results:

STOCK: 36ºC
NEW: 29ºC

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/7285/imag0074a.jpg (http://img20.imageshack.us/i/imag0074a.jpg/)

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/4913/imag0079.jpg (http://img96.imageshack.us/i/imag0079.jpg/)

protteus
22-01-2010, 01:59
I also don't know the reason, but changing to ASUS FW it's the only way to see if the problem it's related with Tomato.

Só agora é que reparei que também és Tuga ;)
I only now noticed that you are Portuguese too ;)

Instead of loading ASUS original firmware right away i´ve loaded dd-wrt to give it a try.

With dd-wrt I can load those pages!!!

I believe it´s not only Tomato related but ALSO Tomato Victek related since the other router (wl500gp) had a little dificulty opening correiomanha.pt (sometimes it would even time out) but if we hit F5 the page would load.


hggomes sou, sim português e se quisesses falar sobre isto noutro forum em português agradecia muito! Também enviei estas "queixas" para o linksysinfo.org mas eles não me ligaram nada...estão demasiado excitados com esta release do tomato

abraço

though
22-01-2010, 02:34
works fine on my tomato flashed router. not sure what you're smokin' :cool:

hggomes
22-01-2010, 04:00
works fine on my tomato flashed router. not sure what you're smokin' :cool:

ROTFL

Could be a routing problem, you have a different ISP, other IP, other routing...

though
22-01-2010, 19:33
have you had any dropouts, etc. before/after your mod???



New pictures ;)

I finally measured the temperature from STOCK and NEW cooler after 1 hour of use and those were the results:

STOCK: 36ºC
NEW: 29ºC

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/7285/imag0074a.jpg (http://img20.imageshack.us/i/imag0074a.jpg/)

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/4913/imag0079.jpg (http://img96.imageshack.us/i/imag0079.jpg/)

hggomes
22-01-2010, 22:30
I´m not sure if i understand the question. I have never any kind of problems with RT-N16 without the mod, i only wanted to do it cause the temperature is a little bit lower.

If there were any kind of dropouts they only could be happening before the mod, never after. LOL



have you had any dropouts, etc. before/after your mod???

though
22-01-2010, 22:34
cool so maybe some people that are experiencing the dropouts can try the mod :D

jacktheripper
23-01-2010, 14:22
I have no dropouts moor after installing the RT-N16_9.9.4.75.trx beta firmware. :D

hggomes
23-01-2010, 17:09
Oleg FW soon?

http://code.google.com/p/wl500g/source/list?path=/branches/rt-n

Catalin
24-01-2010, 16:45
Is it possible to use the JTAG VCC and GND pins to power a small fan? What is the voltage on it? 3.3v? It might not be too loud...
I'm planning to buy a kit (http://www.specialtech.co.uk/spshop/customer/product.php?productid=5781&cat=1266&page=1) to coold the unit down...
http://www.pcfactory.ro/images/products/full/21751/ak-vcx-01.jpg

hggomes
25-01-2010, 00:04
Yes it's possible, but in my opinion it's whorthless. Passive cooling (bigger heatsink) it's MORE than enough.


Is it possible to use the JTAG VCC and GND pins to power a small fan? What is the voltage on it? 3.3v? It might not be too loud...
I'm planning to buy a kit (http://www.specialtech.co.uk/spshop/customer/product.php?productid=5781&cat=1266&page=1) to coold the unit down...

wpte
25-01-2010, 23:56
Yes it's possible, but in my opinion it's whorthless. Passive cooling (bigger heatsink) it's MORE than enough.

I completely agree with that...
routers like these should be maintenance free, you don't want to be cleaning dust inside it because of some fan spinning 24/7.

Perhaps you can make it useful when you put a thermo switch between it, so the fan will only run when the temperature is like... 45 degrees C

The stock temperatures measured by hggomes are about the best operating temperatures for routers like these:)

Catalin
26-01-2010, 12:08
Well, to be onest, with the original firmware, those routers are far from being maintenance - free... :)
The idea of using a fan came when I've searched for suitable heatsinks, and couldn't find anything good, except that kit which I've already ordered...
As soon as it arrives I will test to see if it's the fan will make too much noise at 3.3v, as it is designed to work at 12v.

------------------------------
Back on topic, Oleg's firmware seems to be almost ready, looking at the google code page...

hggomes
26-01-2010, 16:40
I've tested today the Tomato FW and the USB transfers are a little disapointed/weird but i think that justify the name BETA ;)

FTP transfers start on 6MB/s for a few seconds, then 2-3mb/s, sometime later 6mb/s again...

Let's wait for Oleg ;)

PS: I was hoping more from such hardware "improvements" WL500GP/W => RT-N16, it's better of course but i think it has "only" the double of power ;)
I have the proof of that when i use SSL/TLS encryption, it doens't have enough processor power :(

I will try to overclock to 533MHZ (BCM4718 Announced Speed), and compare the results/improvements.

wpte
26-01-2010, 17:50
Well, to be onest, with the original firmware, those routers are far from being maintenance - free... :)

I was talking about the hardware:D

Pedro83
26-01-2010, 18:07
Anyone here, in English part of the forum, testing new beta of Oleg for RT-N16? As discussed in Russian forum http://www.wl500g.info/showthread.php?t=19057&page=57&p=180330 and forward. Actually already second beta this week.

I am running DD-WRT for now, but looking forward for stable Oleg (I like it more).
P

Catalin
26-01-2010, 18:35
I was talking about the hardware:D

I know mate :), but still maintenance is in fact... And to clean the dust off a cooler is far easier than to solve the bugs of the original firmware... :P

lly
26-01-2010, 18:41
Anyone here, in English part of the forum, testing new beta of Oleg for RT-N16? As discussed in Russian forum http://www.wl500g.info/showthread.php?t=19057&page=57&p=180330 and forward. Actually already second beta this week.
This is stock beta firmware with L2TP fixes only. Oleg tries to help ASUS.

btw., you can use Google translate to read Russian threads.

Pedro83
26-01-2010, 19:59
My bad... just did it few minutes after the post. My russian is far worse than I thought... P

Catalin
27-01-2010, 11:56
Not a very clean job, but now it's ready for overclocking...:cool:
http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/106/p1020851y.jpg

hggomes
30-01-2010, 00:06
Your router will get a cold dude ;)

Catalin
03-02-2010, 17:10
A little update on he cooling side... Since on the first try, the 40mm fan mounted on the cpu heatsink was a little bit noisy at night (the router is placed in a bedroom) because the fan was very close to the top cover of the case, I decided to cut a hole in it, changed the fan to a bigger one (50mm) and also reduced the rpm by using two 10 Ohm 3W resistors. In addition, I've covered all the top and side air holes, so now there is a good air flow on both top and bottom sides of the board.
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/8477/p1020855g.jpg

hggomes
03-02-2010, 17:19
:eek: In that case i would prefer using the router without the top, intead creating holes on it. It would be more fresh, less noise / consumption / time ... :eek:

That´s what we call in my country "xuning" :D, thanks anyway for sharing.


PS: Warranty void, even with a new top i doubt they RMA the unit. And... you forgot to add another heatsink to the right side of the black one, LOL ;)

Catalin
03-02-2010, 17:50
The warranty is bulshit anyway... And if something goes wrong, even if you haven't opened the case, and it's brand new, and you have flashed a 3rd party firmware, it might be impossible to flash the original firmware into a dead router before you RMA the unit...

I don't worry about warranty, and onestly, having seen what temperatures do the chips reach in the standard configuration, compared to what I have now, I seriously think that my unit is far more reliable than a brand new one...

I've read the temperatures you measured, but on my unit, before modding, when transferring data between WLAN, LAN and USB attached storage, temperatures were far higher, as confirmed by other owners on different forums...

hggomes
03-02-2010, 18:07
I've read the temperatures you measured, but on my unit, before modding, when transferring data between WLAN, LAN and USB attached storage, temperatures were far higher, as confirmed by other owners on different forums...

It's a little different a router with a 3rd party installed and router with wires, holes and others "stuff" don't you think? My old WL500GP was changed with a 3rd party fw for a new one, i don't think they will check or consider that. But i'm sure such "tweeking" like yours would be a refused RMA...

Temperatures, well that depends on the temperature outside the router too, im sure in the summer (30-35º outside | 24-27º inside) would be different, i measured in the winter (2-10º outside | 18-22º inside)... But anyway it depends on the headsink you have installed, have you checked my heatsink compared to yours? It's almost the triple ;)

PS: Show me your measures / other forums. I going to measure again tomorrow but with conditioner air at maximum of 32º (inside) and we will see...

Catalin
03-02-2010, 18:15
Mate, I was talking about an original unit, without heatsink on ethernet or RAM... And again, I don't see the point in repeating the fact that I lost the warranty... I KNEW that before I started modding the unit... And, in the end, it's not the warranty for a 30.000 euros car, it's just a 100 $ router...

hggomes
03-02-2010, 18:23
In that case, good holes ;) But it was not a critic, my WL500GP was worst than yours (wires,memory mod,jtag,serial,4xusb mod) and i was not worried with warranty too, but what i ment was that maybe a little unnecessary to make the hole / cooler, you could take the top instead, my opinion of course... I tell you this because i hate coolers (noise, dust, consumption), i've got a EPI I7-640UM (Dual 1.20GHZ) and a C2D-P9500 (Dual 2.5GHZ) "routers" without coolers (full passive cooling) machines that copy 125mb/s in the network, so i don't think RT-N16 needs one...


it's not the warranty for a 30.000 euros car, it's just a 100 $ router...

hggomes
05-02-2010, 03:25
Here are the results after 2H working with WAN/LAN/WLAN/USB and forced room temperature at 32º.

STOCK COOLER: 44-45ºC
NEW COOLER: 36-37ºC

hggomes
12-02-2010, 03:38
I've tried Oleg FW and it seems much more stable in USB transfers than the other FWs, i will post results tomorrow.

hggomes
13-02-2010, 22:15
FTP: D: 6.2MB/s U:8.2MB/s | D(SSL): 2.8MB/s U(SSL): 3.6MB/s
SAMBA: D: 6.6MB/s D: 6.4MB/s

It could be better...


I've tried Oleg FW and it seems much more stable in USB transfers than the other FWs, i will post results tomorrow.

ofverstedt
14-02-2010, 14:05
It looks good!
Do you know when olegs FW will be ready for download?


FTP: D: 6.2MB/s U:8.2MB/s | D(SSL): 2.8MB/s U(SSL): 3.6MB/s
SAMBA: D: 6.6MB/s D: 6.4MB/s

It could be better...

wpte
14-02-2010, 15:43
FTP: D: 6.2MB/s U:8.2MB/s | D(SSL): 2.8MB/s U(SSL): 3.6MB/s
SAMBA: D: 6.6MB/s D: 6.4MB/s

It could be better...

I got a much higher rate with samba!

up 8.45MB/s
down 6.65MB/s
this is the stable speed (as soon as it doesn't change around) for a 3GB file

I'm using the IPKG one

wpte
14-02-2010, 16:10
for the interested, I build the rt-n16 firmware regulary now, so you might download these!
Remember these are still alpha versions

I made a new thread: http://wl500g.info/showthread.php?p=185468
there you can download all the firmwares I've compiled :)

theMIROn
14-02-2010, 16:25
thnx for making it available to endusers :)
btw, have to say, wpa2 is still unusable in 1.9.2.7-rtn-2000

wpte
14-02-2010, 17:20
thnx for making it available to endusers :)
btw, have to say, wpa2 is still unusable in 1.9.2.7-rtn-2000

not a big deal;)
Yes, only no encryption or WEP is working! forgot to say that:p
WPA is not working for me either yet, with TKIP?

lly
14-02-2010, 17:27
WPA is not working for me either yet, with TKIP?
WPA+TKIP is prohibited by 802.11n final.

theMIROn
14-02-2010, 17:45
WPA+TKIP is prohibited by 802.11n final.

yep
wpa+tkip/aes works fine with 802.11b/g
wpa+aes works fine with 802.11n
wpa2+tkip/aes doesn't work yet

wpte
14-02-2010, 17:54
yep
wpa+tkip/aes works fine with 802.11b/g
wpa+aes works fine with 802.11n
wpa2+tkip/aes doesn't work yet

luckily a bit safer to use:D
wpa+aes it is, hello 300mbit :)

hggomes
14-02-2010, 20:04
Well i flashed to R1200 version and overclock to 532MHz and i could reach higher rates:

FTP: D: 7.2MB/s U:8.9MB/s | D(SSL): 3.2MB/s U(SSL): 3.9MB/s
SAMBA: D: 6.8MB/s D: 8.6MB/s



I got a much higher rate with samba!

this is the stable speed (as soon as it doesn't change around) for a 3GB file

I'm using the IPKG one

wpte
14-02-2010, 20:16
Well i flashed to R1200 version and overclock to 532MHz and i could reach higher rates:

FTP: D: 7.2MB/s U:8.9MB/s | D(SSL): 3.2MB/s U(SSL): 3.9MB/s
SAMBA: D: 6.8MB/s D: 8.6MB/s

what settings are you using for overclocking?
last time I tried it underclocked itself:p

hggomes
15-02-2010, 15:04
I'm using 532,266,133.
A BIG THANK YOU to "THE MIRON" and "LLY.DEV" and the "others involved" on this FW, continue the good work ;)

what settings are you using for overclocking?
last time I tried it underclocked itself:p

hggomes
19-02-2010, 01:12
Anyone knows which one is the primary antena? I measured and the left and the right one has de same signal level, the center one its weaker. But the stranger thing is that if i connect to the center or right antena i can connect to AP but the redirected ports dont work VERY WEIRD... Any ideas?

dg1sek
20-02-2010, 13:20
Anyone knows which one is the primary antena? I measured and the left and the right one has de same signal level, the center one its weaker. But the stranger thing is that if i connect to the center or right antena i can connect to AP but the redirected ports dont work VERY WEIRD... Any ideas?

What is it that makes you think that one Antenna could be primary? My understanding of MIMO is that you use the signal of all Antennas to eliminate reflection path loss?

Catalin
20-02-2010, 20:08
Anyone knows which one is the primary antena? I measured and the left and the right one has de same signal level, the center one its weaker. But the stranger thing is that if i connect to the center or right antena i can connect to AP but the redirected ports dont work VERY WEIRD... Any ideas?

Don't know if it helps, but if you look on the PCB board, the left antenna's connector is marked ANT 0, the right antenna's connector is ANT 1, and the middle one is ANT 2.

hggomes
20-02-2010, 20:35
Don't know if it helps, but if you look on the PCB board, the left antenna's connector is marked ANT 0, the right antenna's connector is ANT 1, and the middle one is ANT 2.

Thanks, but i already seen that, that's why i've assume that the left one (ant0) was the primary. But it's very weird the redirected ports not working in ant1 & 2 :(

dg1sek
21-02-2010, 12:47
Thanks, but i already seen that, that's why i've assume that the left one (ant0) was the primary. But it's very weird the redirected ports not working in ant1 & 2 :(

Not weird at all. Read how multiple antennaes in MIMO WiFi works ("spatial multiplexing") at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIMO#Multi-antenna_types

and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antenna_diversity

IMHO it really makes no sense to speak about a "primary" antenna.

wpte
21-02-2010, 14:42
Not weird at all. Read how multiple antennaes in MIMO WiFi works ("spatial multiplexing") at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIMO#Multi-antenna_types

and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antenna_diversity

IMHO it really makes no sense to speak about a "primary" antenna.

Well some routers/aps do actually do use a "main" antenna
They used to make those, and usually they where of cheap quality

nowadays real mimo uses the antenna's in a sort of... "multi-threaded way" (if that makes it easier to understand).
Or just like SATA harddrives... they don't have a master and slaves like PATA drives:D

or am I making bad examples here?:p

hggomes
21-02-2010, 15:46
Thanks, i already tested and the Antena 0 is the best one (so i considered it primary) when i use only 1 antena. I think it matters, the antena 1 has a very weak signal, and the antena 2 it's almost the same as antena 0... I was saying "weird" when i connect to the router (antena 2), surf the web, ALL works normally except redirecting ports, when i said "weird" i was talking about the ports...


Not weird at all. Read how multiple antennaes in MIMO WiFi works ("spatial multiplexing") at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIMO#Multi-antenna_types

and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antenna_diversity

IMHO it really makes no sense to speak about a "primary" antenna.

56k
21-02-2010, 20:30
Please help! I'm currently running WL-500W on AP Mode everything running perfect. Just brought RT-N16, I read one of the post that You can't port WL-500W config to RT-N16:confused:

Can anyone advise which mode should I use for RT-N16 with F/W RT-N16-1.9.2.7-rtn-r1210.trx appreciate your help.

wpte
21-02-2010, 20:48
Please help! I'm currently running WL-500W on AP Mode everything running perfect. Just brought RT-N16, I read one of the post that You can't port WL-500W config to RT-N16:confused:

Can anyone advise which mode should I use for RT-N16 with F/W RT-N16-1.9.2.7-rtn-r1210.trx appreciate your help.

Yeh well... I ment: the config file saved from a wl-500 router can't be directly put on a RT-N16...
but you can use the same settings tho ;)
it's just best if you set the webconfig manually.

harddrives are listed like /dev/discs/disca instead of /dev/discs/disc0
that's pretty much the only difference;)

56k
21-02-2010, 21:22
@wpte Thanks for fast reply
One more question can I use "Flashfs" from WL-500W?

wpte
21-02-2010, 21:34
@wpte Thanks for fast reply
One more question can I use "Flashfs" from WL-500W?

sure you can:)
btw, the latest build: http://rapidshare.com/files/353880870/RT-N16-1.9.2.7-rtn-r1232.trx

56k
21-02-2010, 21:44
@wpte Thank you very much:)

hggomes
25-02-2010, 03:18
Have anyone noticed when using the "reboot" command on the console, sometimes you lost the connection and you must turn it off an on to have again connectivity, i cannot reboot the equipment remotly because i'm afraid it freezes...

bef
25-02-2010, 21:11
Have anyone noticed when using the "reboot" command on the console, sometimes you lost the connection and you must turn it off an on to have again connectivity, i cannot reboot the equipment remotly because i'm afraid it freezes...

I can confirm that, and it not only affects console sessions, but "save&restart" commands from the webinterface as well
(I'm using the r1232-build from wpte)

wpte
25-02-2010, 23:57
I can confirm that, and it not only affects console sessions, but "save&restart" commands from the webinterface as well
(I'm using the r1232-build from wpte)

I never noticed that:confused:

what sort of console connection do you use? telnet dropbear?
I use openssh myself instead of dropbear, that might the reason it never happened to me:p