Bekijk de volledige versie : [WL-500g Deluxe] European WL500g Deluxe first pics
Antiloop
13-12-2004, 13:34
more pics will follow soon,
i'm still busy with an comparisation chart between WL500g and WL500g Deluxe
where did you buy it?
how much was it?
thanks,
:rolleyes:
Antiloop
14-12-2004, 08:25
Asus has been so kind to deliver me one for testing purposes
so I have no idea what it does cost neither what the price is, as it is not my property
would love to see that comparisation chart! when do you think you have it ready??
Antiloop
14-12-2004, 12:43
would love to see that comparisation chart! when do you think you have it ready??
don't expect too much..
currently the wl500gx is slow.. I have no idea why
I'm still waiting for Asus to answer that particular question
or I expect too much from it
or it is just underperforming and thus firmware could be blamed..
humm slow??
What do you mean with "slow"? Slower than the WL-500g ? same speed?
Besides the 2 usb 2.0 ports and the faster cpu, Do you notice any other significative diferences?
If you connect a usb2.0 external ide disk, how fast can you transfer data?
(both wired, and wireless)
Is the radio sensibility/range the same as the old one?
thanks,
:rolleyes:
any news regarding your review?
:confused:
any news regarding your review?
:confused:
Antiloop is AFK for a week...
jbkerner
01-01-2005, 05:59
@Antiloop
:confused: Why are there no more news about the WL-G500 Deluxe?
1. Any results about performance etc.?
2. Your recommendation: Should i wait for this new baby or buy a "normal" 500g?
3. Heard anything about release date?
cheers,
JBK
1. Any results about performance etc.?
2. Your recommendation: Should i wait for this new baby or buy a "normal" 500g?
3. Heard anything about release date?
Well, Antiloop is probably busy at the moment, but from the things I've heard - wl500gx doubled usb speed, but has not reached throughput we've expected. Either way, it's the best choice at the moment from the ASUS.
I'm suggesting buying this one instead of wl500g.
Lionking
23-01-2005, 19:40
Do we have any news regarding the performance issue ?
Antiloop
23-01-2005, 22:07
Do we have any news regarding the performance issue ?
two words explain it all:
'Which performance?'
the darn thing is sooo slow, you can better buy a wl-hdd at this moment if you want fast hdd access
Bad news for the ones who are waiting for the wl500gx for weeks :(
But Antilloop can you give us more information about the hardware configuration :
_quantity of flash memory
_quantity of RAM
_inside pics
_...
Do you think that the future asus/custom firmware release will be able to improve the performances ?
Antiloop
24-01-2005, 21:21
Bad news for the ones who are waiting for the wl500gx for weeks :(
But Antilloop can you give us more information about the hardware configuration :
_quantity of flash memory
_quantity of RAM
_inside pics
_...
Do you think that the future asus/custom firmware release will be able to improve the performances ?
flash 4mb (like wl500g)
ram 16mb enabled (but 32mb onboard, we have enabled it already, and according to asus it should be enabled from factory)
inside pics see fcc currently
how about cpu speed? i think i've read somewhere that's 200MHz...
Antiloop
24-01-2005, 22:39
component details:
WL500g Deluxe
BROADCOM BCM5364PKPB
MX 29LV320ABTC-90
SAMSUNG K4S281632F-TC75
VIA VT6212L
DELTA LF8731 0432
DELTA LF8505 0434W
BCM4306KFB
ATMEL434 93C46
BCM2050KML
the broadcom chip used is indeed 200Mhz
thank you!
I hope it gets here soon.
two words explain it all:
'Which performance?'
the darn thing is sooo slow, you can better buy a wl-hdd at this moment if you want fast hdd access
do You mean slow compared to WL-500G or to USB 2.0 speed ?
Thanks!
Antiloop
31-01-2005, 08:21
do You mean slow compared to WL-500G or to USB 2.0 speed ?
Thanks!
both
speed from FTP from usb2.0 harddrive: 1,3Megabyte/sec
I've got my hands on one today. 200MHz and 32MB of RAM OK.
I've measured the USB2.0 HDD throughput directly on the device and it reached about 5.5MB/s, which is much better than 0.9MB/s on the 'g' unit, but still falls short of 15MB/s with the same HDD box on a PC.
Anyway, I wasn't able to squeeze more than 1.1MB/s out of it through the stupid-ftpd and only about 950KB/s over samba, both results wired.
When wireless (.11g), samba was at about 650KB/s, but this time smbd took only about 40% of CPU (wired, it took >70% CPU).
It seems to me that the bottleneck is mostly in the ethernet driver (I'll try it more later, with disabled bridge, if that makes a difference).
I was unable to run epi_ttcp for some mysterious reason...
I've also tried attaching USB2.0 DVB receiver, but I spotted some ehci BUG(ehci_mem:129), so I'm going to investigate it more.
Is the original asus binary et.o driver the same as the netgear source one?
It seems to me that the bottleneck is mostly in the ethernet driver (I'll try it more later, with disabled bridge, if that makes a difference).
Yes, this makes difference. Disabling bridge (or binding to eth0 directly) improves speed for about 10%.
LinuxInside
09-03-2005, 09:51
Just bought the deluxe version and upgraded to Oleg's wl500g-1.9.2.7-3c firmware. (Many kudo's to Oleg !!!)
For the interested:
CPU: BCM5365 rev 1 at 200 MHz
Calibrating delay loop... 199.47 BogoMIPS
Memory: 30288k/32768k available (1600k kernel code, 2480k reserved, 216k data, 68k init, 0k highmem)
PCI devices found:
Bus 0, device 0, function 0:
Class 0501: PCI device 14e4:0800 (rev 1).
IRQ 3.
Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0x18000000 [0x18000fff].
Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0x1fc00000 [0x1fffffff].
Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0x1c000000 [0x1dffffff].
Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0x1a000000 [0x1bffffff].
Bus 0, device 1, function 0:
Class 0200: PCI device 14e4:4713 (rev 1).
IRQ 4.
Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0x18001000 [0x18001fff].
Bus 0, device 2, function 0:
Class 1000: PCI device 14e4:4718 (rev 1).
IRQ 5.
Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0x18002000 [0x18002fff].
Bus 0, device 3, function 0:
Class 0c03: PCI device 14e4:4715 (rev 1).
IRQ 6.
Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0x18003000 [0x18003fff].
Bus 0, device 4, function 0:
Class 0604: PCI device 14e4:0804 (rev 1).
IRQ 2.
Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0x18004000 [0x18004fff].
Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0x8000000 [0xfffffff].
Bus 0, device 5, function 0:
Class 0b30: PCI device 14e4:0816 (rev 1).
IRQ 2.
Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0x18005000 [0x18005fff].
Bus 0, device 6, function 0:
Class 0500: PCI device 14e4:080f (rev 1).
IRQ 3.
Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0x18006000 [0x18006fff].
Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0x0 [0x7ffffff].
Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0x10000000 [0x17ffffff].
Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0x80000000 [0x9fffffff].
Bus 1, device 0, function 0:
Class 0600: PCI device 14e4:5365 (rev 0).
IRQ 2.
Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0x40000000 [0x40001fff].
Prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0x0 [0x7ffffff].
Bus 1, device 2, function 0:
Class 0c03: PCI device 1106:3038 (rev 97).
IRQ 2.
Master Capable. Latency=22.
I/O at 0x100 [0x11f].
Bus 1, device 2, function 1:
Class 0c03: PCI device 1106:3038 (rev 97).
IRQ 2.
Master Capable. Latency=22.
I/O at 0x120 [0x13f].
Bus 1, device 2, function 2:
Class 0c03: PCI device 1106:3104 (rev 99).
IRQ 2.
Master Capable. Latency=22.
Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0x40002000 [0x400020ff].
Bus 1, device 3, function 0:
Class 0280: PCI device 14e4:4320 (rev 3).
IRQ 2.
Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0x40004000 [0x40005fff].
And the picture:
http://wl500g.info/attachment.php?attachmentid=&stc=1
does this work?
gbrancovici
15-03-2005, 18:47
While visiting CeBIT I've run into ASUS' booth and I've found this weird things (see picture):
1. Why is the CD labelled g/gx?
2. What is the WL-500g2R?
Hi
I think the G/GX just means the devices are so similar that they share some advertising/dokumentation material, no new device.
Btw, what has the gx what the g has not, other than more cpu power and 2.0 USB ?
But the other device is interresting, indeet.
Greets
phil_trick
16-03-2005, 12:12
Hi,
Looking at that picture it looks like there are 2 extra USB ports available and 2 serial ports as well as a number of GPIO pins.
This looks very interesting!
Well looks Like I'm getting an Asus instead of the linksys.
@linuxinside, would it be possible to post a picture of a close up of the areas with the jumpers/pin headers?
Phil.
P.s. Apologies if this is already known, just got here after reading the article at Linuxdevices.
Antiloop
16-03-2005, 13:46
Hi,
Looking at that picture it looks like there are 2 extra USB ports available and 2 serial ports as well as a number of GPIO pins.
This looks very interesting!
Well looks Like I'm getting an Asus instead of the linksys.
@linuxinside, would it be possible to post a picture of a close up of the areas with the jumpers/pin headers?
Phil.
P.s. Apologies if this is already known, just got here after reading the article at Linuxdevices.
they are available, but have not been made available yet
please have a look in this (temporary) directory at http://www.chupa.nl/wl500gx/wl500g%20deluxe/
phil_trick
16-03-2005, 16:14
Howdy Antiloop.
Looks like on J5 you have 2 serial ports coming out on that header.
WARNING: they look like they at TTL levels so they can't be plugged in to a serail port on a PC directly.
There might be a system console on the first serial port which might be useful for debugging.
There is also a reset signal on that header which might be useful.
The is a 3.3v supply and ground so a level converter PCB could be made for that jumper, and the power could be drawn from the main PCB.
The second set of headers: J1 (I think, hey, I can't count either ;) ) look to be standard USB port headers. The only thing is that they do not have a +5v supply for the usb connectors. For that we might be able to draw the voltage from the +5v supply on the built in USB ports.
Now all I need is for some place in Ireland to start selling one of these :)
Getting any product info off the Broadcom website for the processor is difficult as well.
Phil
rkhalloran
17-03-2005, 21:15
The GX has (a) 2 USB 2.0 ports vs. 1 USB 1.1 port on the -G version, big improvement if you're planning on using USB-attached hard drives and (b) has the "afterburner" wireless enhancement so potentially you can get 100+ Mb/s throughput if your client adapters support it
The GX has (a) 2 USB 2.0 ports vs. 1 USB 1.1 port on the -G version, big improvement if you're planning on using USB-attached hard drives and (b) has the "afterburner" wireless enhancement so potentially you can get 100+ Mb/s throughput if your client adapters support it
Yeah well, "potentially" is even a big word when we're talking about wireless performance....
Antiloop
17-03-2005, 23:06
The GX has (a) 2 USB 2.0 ports vs. 1 USB 1.1 port on the -G version, big improvement if you're planning on using USB-attached hard drives and (b) has the "afterburner" wireless enhancement so potentially you can get 100+ Mb/s throughput if your client adapters support it
to correct you in the differences the WL500g also has a LPT port, the WL500g Deluxe (WL500gx was it's codename only) has not.
The GX has (a) 2 USB 2.0 ports vs. 1 USB 1.1 port on the -G version, big improvement if you're planning on using USB-attached hard drives and (b) has the "afterburner" wireless enhancement so potentially you can get 100+ Mb/s throughput if your client adapters support it
Well, the USB2.0 ports are not as big as an improvement as i had expected. When i upload to the disk (eq writing) the speed is about 480 Kb/s, for downloading (eq reading) it's about 800 Kb/s. But the speeds are quite stable, thats a plus.
The disk does about 35mb/s on ide, and ca 20mb/s when connected directly to the pc via a usb2.0 case. (reading)
Are these slow speeds hardware related (eg, the proc/usb controller cannot go any faster), or are these problems software related?
Looks like on J5 you have 2 serial ports coming out on that header.
WARNING: they look like they at TTL levels so they can't be plugged in to a serail port on a PC directly.
The is a 3.3v supply and ground so a level converter PCB could be made for that jumper, and the power could be drawn from the main PCB.
See my web pages at http://www.rwhitby.net/wrt54gs/serial.html and http://www.rwhitby.net/nslu2/serial.html for details of how to build level converters for these types on interfaces. Those pages include details of ready-made kits that you can buy, so the only thing you will need to do is wire up some connectors to J5.
The second set of headers: J1 (I think, hey, I can't count either ;) ) look to be standard USB port headers. The only thing is that they do not have a +5v supply for the usb connectors. For that we might be able to draw the voltage from the +5v supply on the built in USB ports.
The other interesting thing is the three GPIO signals on that header. Wonder if they are used for anything on-board, or whether they are really three general purpose I/Os for our use :-)
-- Rod
phil_trick
21-03-2005, 08:59
The other interesting thing is the three GPIO signals on that header. Wonder if they are used for anything on-board, or whether they are really three general purpose I/Os for our use :-)
-- Rod
What, for interesting things like running Zoneminder http://www.zoneminder.com/ and using one of the GPIOs as an alarm trigger input :D
Phil
I've got my hands on one today. 200MHz and 32MB of RAM OK.
I've measured the USB2.0 HDD throughput directly on the device and it reached about 5.5MB/s, which is much better than 0.9MB/s on the 'g' unit, but still falls short of 15MB/s with the same HDD box on a PC.
Anyway, I wasn't able to squeeze more than 1.1MB/s out of it through the stupid-ftpd and only about 950KB/s over samba, both results wired.
When wireless (.11g), samba was at about 650KB/s, but this time smbd took only about 40% of CPU (wired, it took >70% CPU).
It seems to me that the bottleneck is mostly in the ethernet driver (I'll try it more later, with disabled bridge, if that makes a difference).
I was unable to run epi_ttcp for some mysterious reason...
I've also tried attaching USB2.0 DVB receiver, but I spotted some ehci BUG(ehci_mem:129), so I'm going to investigate it more.
Is the original asus binary et.o driver the same as the netgear source one?
Edit:
With the firmware from oleg the speeds are somewhat higher:
download: 1250kB/s
upload: 1400kB/s
Thanks man, you guys really know something about this stuff!! ;)
-----------------
How do you measure the throughput directly on the device?
I got very different results when testing the throughput from the harddisk with different firmware.
========
With 1.8.2.1 firmware:
Upload (write) : about 450 kB/s
Download (read) : about 780 kB/s
Speeds were very stable, did not fluctuate more then 20kB/s.
========
With 1.9.3.6 BETA firmware:
Upload (write) : about 985 kB/s
Download (read) : about 985kB/s
With the newer firmware the speeds were just as stable. But the weird thing here that the speeds are exactly the same, looks like something is limiting the bandwidth. The external case with hdd is USB2.0 and does about 20mb/s when connected to a normal pc. It looks like the connection with the router is just usb1.1 or something :confused:
ghaspias
26-03-2005, 17:06
Nenik said
I've also tried attaching USB2.0 DVB receiver, but I spotted some ehci BUG(ehci_mem:129), so I'm going to investigate it more.
Any news from the DVB front?
I have been thinking about doing something similar, but with a hardware mpeg encoder. Would it work on a wl500g deluxe? And what about a plain wl500g?
Antiloop
31-03-2005, 12:45
While visiting CeBIT I've run into ASUS' booth and I've found this weird things (see picture):
1. Why is the CD labelled g/gx?
2. What is the WL-500g2R?
regarding Q2:
see this thread please:
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